Spoilers The Ships of Lower Decks

[NCC-73515]

Back in the day, I was actually hoping for Panasonic’s HDDVD format to win over Sony’s BRD. The compression was arguably better, less lossy, etc., etc. IIRC, BluRay became the standard due to the greater flexibility with interface design features and other interactive capabilities it had that HD apparently didn’t. Personally, I’d take better video quality over fancy main menus any day, but they didn’t ask my opinion when the standards decision was made. Then again, I’m biased, as I’m very much an anti-Sony bigot, so they probably wouldn’t have listened to me anyway.

I remember that Paramount/CBS decided to release TOS-R on HDDVD, and I got a sample disc, and just days later, every other studio had committed to BR and so they had to change it all and join the crowd XD

 

[137th Gebirg]

Yeah. I was really bummed when that happened. HDDVD got Betamaxed, ironically.

Oh well... In another 10 years or so, we’ll probably see another format war for the next generation of consumer electronics. Maybe 8K or 16K rollable wall screens... True 3D video without the need for special glasses... The next generation is always around the next corner.

 

[NCC-73515]

Yeah. I was really bummed when that happened. HDDVD got Betamaxed, ironically.

Oh well... In another 10 years or so, we’ll probably see another format war for the next generation of consumer electronics. Maybe 8K or 16K rollable wall screens... True 3D video without the need for special glasses... The next generation is always around the next corner.

Which I why I skipped BR as well. The quality gain from DVDs is only important when you pause and look for details, like reading the BTTF newspapers. But that's what screencaps are for and you can find them online.

 

[Tomalak]

I remember that Paramount/CBS decided to release TOS-R on HDDVD, and I got a sample disc, and just days later, every other studio had committed to BR and so they had to change it all and join the crowd XD

Didn't Paramount strike a big deal with Toshiba for HD-DVD? Talk about backing the wrong horse.

 

[Tuskin38]

While the exterior shots of the Vancouver make it look way bigger than the Cerritos, if you compare the MSDs, it’s only 50 meters longer, and not wider. Someone made a scale chart based off the MSDs

https://www.facebook.com/groups/trekyards/permalink/3505184832903228/

 

[valkyrie013]

I got 475 meters based off the MSD for the Vancouver, which is longer than the 390 meters Cerritos using the Msd.
Both using 3.5 meters deck height, which is standard Tng height.

(Not joining Facebook to put my quotes up.. hate that place..)

 

[Tuskin38]

For those who don't want to open Facebook

 

[137th Gebirg]

That Parliament-class dorsal view is quite a good-looking profile, although it doesn't seem to be nearly as large and literally overshadowing against the CA class that was portrayed in the episode.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I feel like the Parliament-class is the proper design successor to the Miranda Class.

It has all the right design features to seem like a proper evolution.

 

[BillJ]

I feel like the Parliament-class is the proper design successor to the Miranda Class.

I think the Nebula was the Miranda successor.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I think the Nebula was the Miranda successor.

I think the Nebula was too big to be a Miranda successor.

Nebula is it's own Half-way point between the Miranda & Galaxy.

 

[Tomalak]

The Nebula was to the Galaxy what the Miranda was to the Constitution, so it's an apt comparison.

I guess you're saying the Parliament is the successor to the Miranda in the role she was doing in the 24th century, not when she was a top of the line ship in the 23rd century.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I guess you're saying the Parliament is the successor to the Miranda in the role she was doing in the 24th century, not when she was a top of the line ship in the 23rd century.

I'm talking more about physical design and layout.

 

[BillJ]

I'm talking more about physical design and layout.

Thing is, they aren't that different. Parliament has a shrunken secondary hull compared to the Nebula.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Thing is, they aren't that different. Parliament has a shrunken secondary hull compared to the Nebula.

True:
the Nebula-class has a BIG honkin Deflector Dish between it's Warp Nacelle's
the Parliament-class has a teeny Deflector Dish between it's Warp Nacelle's

A product of their design times I guess, with the Nebula Class having a length of 442.23 meters vs Parliament-class having a length of ~410 meters.

But Nebula-class having a nice wide oval saucer vs Parliament-class having a nice round circular saucer, ergo much narrower.

And alot of dead space behind the Parliament-class due to the Warp Nacelles hanging in the aft in open space while the Nebula Class is compact and efficient within it's design box with not much hanging out.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

Personally, I think the Parliament-class has a link in its design to the Springfield-class.

 

[Tomalak]

The Cerritos definitely looks like a ship that could have been in that Wolf 359 graveyard.

 

[JoseNoodles]

Or in the Second Fleet in DS9's "A Time to Stand".

 

[publiusr]

Nice!

 

[BillJ]

Feels like a weird amalgam of the D-7, Bird of Prey and Negh'Var.