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The Presidential & VP Debates

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I you have to resort to the F-word to make your point, you're not worth debating.

I disliked Trump before. I dislike him more now. But like it or not, while I detest white supremacy in all its forms, those scum are not the only people Trump is in bed with. And the people Biden is in bed with are the greatest threat to a free and just society that we've ever seen. So while Biden might be the better man... is he the better candidate?
 
I you have to resort to the F-word to make your point, you're not worth debating.

I disliked Trump before. I dislike him more now. But like it or not, while I detest white supremacy in all its forms, those scum are not the only people Trump is in bed with. And the people Biden is in bed with are the greatest threat to a free and just society that we've ever seen. So while Biden might be the better man... is he the better candidate?

If there ever was a time in America when it it was appropriate to swear, now is the fucking time.

Let's see. Biden's supporters: Former Presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. Madeline Albright, former US Secretary of State and US Ambassador. More than 80 former and present US Ambassadors, hundreds of past and present members of the Senate and Congress, members of the Defense Department, the Justice Department, business leaders, newspapers, magazines, labor unions, civil rights groups, hundreds of religious leaders...which one of these is the great threat to society that makes you think a white supremacist, narcissistic moron who takes Putin's word over that of our own FBI is a better choice than a man who served our country in government for over 35 years?
 
Even Russia's media thought that Trump lost the debate. Biden had referred to Trump as Putin's puppy.

I couldn't have been the only one disappointed when Trump didn't say "No puppy! No puppy! You're the puppy!"
 
What I don't understand is, after the President says on national television that he aligns himself with white supremacists, some voters still are "undecided." What is there to decide? That one issue all by itself tells you everything you need to know.

I think that's been the most depressing, disgusting and horrifying revelation about this whole hellish term: that my country is not even close to what I thought it was. To support someone who says Nazis are "good people," and calls out to the "Proud Boys" during a Presidential debate....I have no words. That's a level of iniquity that should bring all discussions to an end.

And yet...it doesn't.

That's the country I live in.
long term I don't see the union staying together, at least not under the current system. this just showed what were thought to be cracks in the foundation were major gaps with a threat of collapse.
 
"The power of the people is greater than that man that's in power." ~ Cory Booker

He said this on A Late Show Live, after the debate. so important- it is --- I meet Cory in 2018 when I was at congress getting more funding for homeless housing -
 
Let's leave the political debate to the candidates. The Dems' agenda is no secret. If you don't see the danger, I am unlikely to convince you.
Well, i am from europe and more focused on european politics, so i thought maybe you just have more insights into the democratic party than me. But it looks like you dont have anything to back up your accusation
 
Let's leave the political debate to the candidates. The Dems' agenda is no secret. If you don't see the danger, I am unlikely to convince you.

Is this your thing, to throw something controversial out there and then duck out of further discussion? "I can prove atheism is a faith, but it's all opinion and I don't want to discuss it." "Joe Biden is the greatest threat to a free society ever, but I don't want to talk about it."
 
Let's leave the political debate to the candidates. The Dems' agenda is no secret. If you don't see the danger, I am unlikely to convince you.

So basically you can't back up anything and are just throwing grenades in the thread with outrageous, unsubstantiated accusations, like Cheeto Voldemort himself.

Gosh, if only there was a word for that......
 
I was very much for Andrew Yang, now there was a guy who could keep his cool, after he was out and then seeing what they've done this year, they completely lost me. The question asking Trump if he would urge calm during the election was a complete joke. It isnt them that will show up burn down businesses and then be given a pass by the media. They can even pin anything bad that happens as his fault. I was for them for a long time and they totally turned me off this year. That's a first for me.
 
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And the people Biden is in bed with are the greatest threat to a free and just society that we've ever seen.

I'm curious about this too. You've made the accusation, you should follow it up or retract the statement. People made the same accusations about Obama, but when asked about it suddenly shut up. Almost like they didn't really have anything but still wanted to smear the candidate.
 
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