THE ORVILLE, S2 E12: "SANCTUARY"

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  1. The Wormhole

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    Actually, I think F Murray Abraham was there because of Jonathan Frakes. IIRC, the two are friends, which is what led to Abraham doing Insurrection.
     
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    That movie really wasted his talents. :/
     
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    Did something else new return or premiere this week? A repeat the week before performed better than the first NEW episode in 3 week? That confuses me........ Capture.JPG
     
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    Rena Owen - that was unexpected! Best known in my home country as Jake's (Temuera Morrison) wife in the seminal Once Were Warriors. Didn't see her name pop up but the moment she spoke my ears perked up.

    Have we had a DS9 cameo yet?
     
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    Skip!
     
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  6. imdbrefugee

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    The female Vorta from the season two finale played Alara’s mother in multiple episodes. Her name escapes me. Tony motherfucking Todd was just in this very one. Kassidy Yates is a regular. I’d say DS9 is best represented out of them all.
     
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    Well...could be some confusion

    Some people thought the Orville was back...amd when it wasn't they assumed a repeat
     
  8. Amaris

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    I can say that for me Fox's website wasn't working properly, the new episodes weren't showing up. I had to wait until the next day to watch it on Hulu.
     
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    Or Separate Ways by Journey :)
     
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    Hiatuses..... Hiati? Usually can screw things up.

    The "live" ratings are kind of... "Meh" at best, but how does the show do in the Live+# ratings?
     
  11. Paul755

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    I’m no Dolly Parton fan but the use of the song throughout the episode was fantastic. Even the assault on the colony and dogfight in space.

    It shouldn’t have worked but it did.
     
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    I think the poster is referring to main cast members. So far all the series but TOS and DS9 have been represented.
     
  13. StarMan

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    OMG was my brain turned off last night... ?

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    I really enjoyed this episode, in spite of the Federation cliches. My partner loved Dolly Parton, as did I. I can't believe how much I enjoyed a Dolly Parton-themed space battle!

    Pretty much. :)
     
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  15. Shawnster

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    Interesting how we watched the same show and have opposite take aways.

    I'm seeing these Moclan gender /sex episodes as metaphor for the current LGBT social issues. People born a certain way forced to change. The 60s gender stereotype you see is being used as a metaphor to describe those who oppose LGBT social reform. The fact that surgery is used to keep Moclan society all male is intentionally opposite the reality that some Trans individuals seek surgery as a means of or a part of their transition journey.

    Science fiction being used as social commentary. In this case homosexuality, homosexual marriage, children born with the right/wrong genitals, a culture refusing to accept anything but their long held beliefs and being represented as narrow minded and oppressive.
     
  16. The Wormhole

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    Everyone was wanking their boners from seeing the Enterprise on Disco.
     
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  17. Serveaux

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    I just caught that bit on Youtube later.
     
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  18. 1001001

    1001001 Boorish Jackass Moderator

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    You should rent Amadeus. Today.

    As for Sanctuary....that was the most TNG thing I've seen since......TNG. :lol: The whole feel of things, the look of things, the music...

    Well, except for the Dolly Parton stuff...

    The Moclan woman's speech at the council was incredibly well done. Why hasn't Bortus stabbed Klyden in his skeevy heart by now?? I hate that guy.

    I really enjoyed this one. Very well done, all the way around.:techman:
     
  19. DonIago

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    I really, really want to believe that Bortus's outburst at Klyden in front of Kelly finally got through to Klyden, but maybe I'm being overly-optimistic.
     
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  20. YellowSubmarine

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    Random thoughts:

    - Talla's first (?) time in the captain's chair was preceded with a lot less personal drama and lack of self-confidence than Alara's (though she did look very anxious), but boy that escalated quickly for her. I'm totally loving her.
    - Speaking of, the Union's red alert / battle in-universe lighting should be commended.
    - All the pieces of the game were the same, even the one Topa “needed”, and the girl from the school called Klyden stupid.
    - Male Moclans are jealous cause the lady planet doesn't suck like theirs.
    - Borthus' made the right call to conceal the baby. I'm loving him too. Ed insistence to investigate a family's baby is what caused the whole mess, and marginally reminded me of real-world overzealous officers who make a big mess by finding suspicious where there is none. He did have more reason there, but should have trusted Borthus anyway.
    - Have not listened to Dolly Parton unironically yet, but I wonder if that interpretation of her lyrics Orville forced onto it had ever crossed many people's mind. God, I love the Orville, even in a joke (like the time capsule), just warping the perspective a little bit does so much, for me at least.
    - Surprised Mercer didn't just go along with quoting her from the start, and had to utter an “Oh boy”. His Kermit is still there, and he has yet to make as impacting a metaphor.
    - When Borthus was introduced as “a member of a male-only species” I thought that was the dumbest, most ridiculous and unfunny idea for humour that you could possibly have, and an easy excuse to put more men in the show.

    I was already proven wrong about that in “About a Girl”, but I wish to shame myself again for assuming. Shame, this week's edition. And that's before we count how how the show did an inoffensive, seamless, unforced, compelling and downright unnerving role reversal on the topic of homophobia a few episodes ago, that didn't even register as one until you were out of the story.
    - Woah, a genuine diplomatic crisis with no simple solution that Picard can talk everyone into, and that left nobody happy? What is going on here?
     
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