THE ORVILLE, S2 E12: "SANCTUARY"

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  1. Serveaux

    Serveaux The Man Premium Member

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    Well, shit...

    "Ed discovers that Moclans aboard The Orville are harboring a secret."

     
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  2. Ar-Pharazon

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    Another secret? And there's only 2 Moclans, no?
     
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  3. Cutie McWhiskers

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    That the 3rd Moclan who had the hots for Talla is smuggled on board or they bribed the judge? All those plot points would (deftly) be building up something, the way the Krill have been incremental as well. The story might actually be good, but isn't this another 2 week wait? :(
     
  4. tomalak301

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    You do know the next episode is 3 weeks away. Why is this thread being started now?
     
  5. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    There's already been two gap weeks. WTF is it now?
     
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  6. tomalak301

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    Spring Break?
     
  7. Aragorn

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    March Madness.
     
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  8. Serveaux

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    Because I start the topics the day after the previous episode airs.
     
  9. Ar-Pharazon

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    But 3 weeks?

    How many Orville fans are also NCAA fans? For one, not me. Or is Fox running a lot of the games?
     
  10. tomalak301

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    Fox is running the Identity episodes the next two weeks. The tournament is on CBS/Turner and next Thursday is the last Thursday of college basketball.
     
  11. tharpdevenport

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    Considering it appears that Debeny only finished recording his score for yesterday's episode about a week in advance and that I seem to recall reading special effects are also running late, the delays appear to just be catching up and finishing the post production, not some secret scheme to drive us nuts. Hell, the score to the next episode (whomever is scoring it) probably hasn't even started recording yet.
     
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  13. JD

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    I really hope they are building to something with all of these Moclan stories.
     
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  14. Enterprise is Great

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    I could see the Moclans leaving the Union. They have been hinting that they and the Union might not be so compatible.
     
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  15. Noname Given

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    So, for the Orville - ...There is no sanctuary... ;)
     
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    But we see Bortus standing next to Kelly, aiming their rifles at someone, and Kelly giving the warning. I really don't think the unseen enemy are Krill, Kaylon or Moclan....


    Yeah, it appears the Union is fucked
     
  17. tharpdevenport

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    Did anybody catch that in the new trailer?

    Voiceover: "With only three episodes remaining this season [...]"

    Maybe word behind the scenes is it's going to be renewed, so they made that confident statement.
     
  18. Serveaux

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    I caught that, and frankly discounted it. I figure that it will cause a lot of talk among Orvillians for a week or two, but probably doesn't mean anything about renewal, any more than the inclusion of a few Orville shots in the New Fox trailer released this week does.*

    Truth to tell, I don't expect a renewal.

    • The show is very expensive and much more complex as a production than most of Fox's other shows, and the ratings are middling at best for Fox.
    • There are too many other Fox shows in stronger shape ratings-wise, and the network is giving a couple of its current scripted hours over to the WWE next season.
    • Yes, Fox has an ownership stake in The Orville, but that's also true of every other potential returning show.
    • It's tempting to say "Oh, but the California tax break!" but honestly only the network and studio accountants know how that weights the equation, so it's close to wishful thinking to factor it in right now.
    • Also seductive: "Fox loves MacFarlane and wants to keep him happy - he has clout!" Which is why Fox is still running Dads, The Winner, Bordertown, The Cleveland Show...

    It's customary at this point to add "I'd love to be proven wrong," but I think we know that goes without saying. ;)

    *The sizzle reel also contains a couple of moments from Gotham, which is ending in a couple of weeks. Putting together a promotional piece, you work with what you have that people will recognize.
     
  19. Serveaux

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    One additional note: as of a couple of days ago - near as I can parse the details of the Disney acquisition of Fox - The Orville and other TV shows running on Fox are no longer owned by the same corporation as the Fox Network.

    20th Century Fox Television, which produces shows like The Orville, is owned by Disney.

    The Fox Broadcasting Company is owned by the Fox Corporation, an independent company in which the Murdochs hold a 39% share. It was spun off in the Disney/Fox merger and is not owned by Disney.

    So...it looks like the Fox Network no longer sees any monies from the shows produced for it by 20th Century Fox Television, beyond the advertising minutes they can sell - no license fees, streaming money, merchandising money, syndication money etc. If true that further changes the financial equation, and not in The Orville's favor.
     
  20. The Wormhole

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    It's hardly a confident statement, just a factual one. Regardless if it's renewed or cancelled, there's only three episodes left of the season and a renewal or cancellation isn't going to change that. So rather than say "three remaining episodes of the series" and end up with egg on their face if a renewal is announced, they'll just say "three remaining episodes this season" and that way, they're right either way.
     
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