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Spoilers The new (massive spoiler) ship!

Plus we knew Enterprise NX-01 was in the museum since the end of Enterprise

But we didn’t know it had been refitted with a secondary hull. Which would have had to have been done after the ship was decommissioned. Explain that one!
 
But we didn’t know it had been refitted with a secondary hull. Which would have had to have been done after the ship was decommissioned. Explain that one!
With the exception of the ending montage that showed the various Enterprises, we never actually saw an exterior shot of the NX-01 during the entire final episode.

We can now simply assume that the montage shot is taken out of context and not representative of now the ship appears in 2161.
 
Not that I'm a lover of the Enterprise-F, but ...
I find it interesting when folks make this statement, as they seem to miss the fact that it works both ways.
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With the exception of the ending montage that showed the various Enterprises, we never actually saw an exterior shot of the NX-01 during the entire final episode.

We can now simply assume that the montage shot is taken out of context and not representative of now the ship appears in 2161.

Not exterior, but a diagram of the ship in its original configuration:

https://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bluray/s4/4x22/these-are-the-voyages-011.jpg

https://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bluray/s4/4x22/these-are-the-voyages-016.jpg

So if we assume the holoprogram is historically accurate (which, despite the ridiculous story, it has never been confirmed NOT to be), then the NX-01 was in its original configuration when it was decommissioned.
 
Yeah, especially when use in a sarcastic manner.
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Fair enough. While I usually do maintain a... somewhat sarcastic attitude, I still feel the expression was appropriate for the subject at hand. That said, I assure you, no ill will was intended.
 
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Not exterior, but a diagram of the ship in its original configuration:

https://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bluray/s4/4x22/these-are-the-voyages-011.jpg

https://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bluray/s4/4x22/these-are-the-voyages-016.jpg

So if we assume the holoprogram is historically accurate (which, despite the ridiculous story, it has never been confirmed NOT to be), then the NX-01 was in its original configuration when it was decommissioned.

That's not conclusive. As recently as Beyond and Discovery, computer displays have shown old or nonexistent versions of the ships they're on, and that's not even getting into all the TOS diagrams on the bridge of the Enterprise for the first three movies.
 
That's not conclusive. As recently as Beyond and Discovery, computer displays have shown old or nonexistent versions of the ships they're on, and that's not even getting into all the TOS diagrams on the bridge of the Enterprise for the first three movies.

That’s a valid point. Trust me; I would rather have had the ship look like the refit than the original version. And I certainly hate TATV enough to not take what I saw as gospel if someone wanted to change it. But unless there’s concrete evidence that the ship looked like the refit in TATV (which there isn’t at present), I’m assuming that it didn’t. Which still leaves the question of why it was refit after it was decommissioned.
 
But TATV was a holodeck programme, and the end montage was conceptual, in the same way opening titles are.

Picard eclipses it in canon for me.
To that end, how many historical films are there that actually show everything 100% historically accurate? Most WW2 films have incorrect planes doubling for the ones used in the period. A holonovel version of events 200 years in the past would undoubtedly streamline things in much the same way… which is also why I don’t buy Trip dying, but that’s a whole different topic.
 
But we didn’t know it had been refitted with a secondary hull. Which would have had to have been done after the ship was decommissioned. Explain that one!

Riker's holodeck program wasn't 100% historically accurate. Or they only planned to decommission the NX-01 when they said they would, but changed their minds later. Or recommissioned it for some reason.
 
Riker's holodeck program wasn't 100% historically accurate. Or they only planned to decommission the NX-01 when they said they would, but changed their minds later. Or recommissioned it for some reason.

Whether the program was historically accurate or not, the fact is that Kirk's ship was supposed to be the first Federation starship Enterprise. Therefore they had to decommission the NX-01 before the formation of the Federation. So either the holoprogram was accurate, or the ship was used as a non-Starfleet, non-Federation ship after 2161.
 
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