The Most Disliked Episode of VOYAGER - Final Round...

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Farscape One, Sep 23, 2019.

  1. Terok Nor

    Terok Nor Commodore Commodore

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    Threshold. It's bad but entertaining.

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    FAIR HAVEN - 0
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  2. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Allow me to save Threshold. It'a total nonsense, but has a few redeeming Tom moments in it. A lot of us laugh at it in the way we're not supposed to, like Spock's Brain.

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  3. Farscape One

    Farscape One Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    "FRIENDSHIP ONE" again. Same reasons as before.

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  4. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'll join you in voting for Friendship One. We're definitely in slightly-better-than-the-others territory here.

    Poor Joe Carey. I think the producers had mistakenly thought that he'd been killed off earlier, and they definitely shouldn't have bothered remembering him.

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  5. BigDaveX

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    They did - apparently they confused him with one of the other early-season goldshirts (I guess Jonas, Suder or Hogan) who got killed off. And for an encore, they also did the same thing with Samantha Wildman later on down the line.

    So yeah, I'll vote Friendship One, which would have been an okayish episode if they hadn't killed off Carey.

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  6. Mareika

    Mareika Captain Captain

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    I will save Friendship One. I like this episode.
    Now I vote for Tatoo again, because I very like Chakotay..


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  7. Farscape One

    Farscape One Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    This really is bottom of the barrel. But I'll vote for "TATTOO". It at least gave us scenes of Chakotay as a teenager, and therefore some history/development. Can't say the same about the rest.


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    FAVORITE SON - 0
    THE DISEASE - 0
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    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  8. Sakonna

    Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Oh boy. Well, I voted for "Cathexis" for keeping Chakotay shirtless the whole time, so I guess I can toss "Tattoo" a point for getting him naked? It's been so long since I've seen that one I can't recall whether it's fully offensive, or merely borderline offensive, but this really is a list of the worst of the worst, it is a struggle to find anything of merit in any of them.

    TATTOO - 3
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    THE DISEASE - 0
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    FAIR HAVEN - 0
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  9. Santa Quark

    Santa Quark Admiral Admiral

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    I feel dirty voting for any of these.

    I guess Q2 is not quite a 0/10? I wouldn’t go so far as to give it a whole point. But maybe 0.75/10?

    I mean, it’s not a Harry finds a girl episode, it’s not about the crew getting a weird patronizing fixation on a quaint Irish village, and it’s not about an absurdly inaccurate view of Native American culture. So on those merits, it is the best in this list.

    TATTOO - 3
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    THE DISEASE - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    Q2 - 1
     
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  10. BigDaveX

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    I’ll save Tattoo, which was a well intentioned episode brought down by the creators unwittingly having gotten Chakotay’s background research from a charlatan.

    And I’ll give the first point of the next round to Q2, since being a juvenile rehash of Deja Q is still much more than can be said for the other episodes here.

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  11. Farscape One

    Farscape One Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I am forced to agree with you about your last paragraph. I vote "Q2", as well.

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  12. Seven of Five

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    Q2 is pretty bad but there are a few nice bits for Icheb that come to mind.

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  13. Terok Nor

    Terok Nor Commodore Commodore

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    I'll save Q2. I'm not voting for anything else since they all suck.

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  14. Sakonna

    Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Now that I see this list of 4, I suppose I do feel both halves of the Fair Haven duology are worse than both of the Harry ROTW eps.

    I'm going outside the actual episode for this, but I'll give a point to "The Disease", because it guest stars Charlie Rocket, whose work I am always happy to see, since his tragic suicide years ago.

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  15. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Fair Haven and Spirit Folk are terrible episodes. I guess I agree that the two Harry ones are slightly better? It's all a muddled river of crap whatever way you look. ;)

    I guess that Harry's love affair in The Disease was decent, and I remember him being pretty indignant at Janeway's dressing him down. The rest is all a goofy haze.

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  16. BigDaveX

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    The Disease has a ton of flaws, but even so it’s a more tolerable episode than the other three.

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  17. Santa Quark

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    Saving The Disease.

    It’s boring but not insultingly stupid.

    And finally vote Fair Haven. At this point we’re voting for the best smelling poop. Favorite Son is boring and preposterous, and Fair Haven at least touched on Janeway’s romantic isolation as Captain.

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  18. Sakonna

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    Point to "Favorite Son." It's extraordinarily bland and lifeless, but the the basic idea doesn't repel me the way both visits to Fair Haven do.

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  19. Farscape One

    Farscape One Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Voting "FAVORITE SON" this round. The biggest crime, other than being a ridiculous explanation, is it's boring.

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  20. Brenny Reindeer

    Brenny Reindeer Commodore Commodore

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    Okay. I can support that.

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