The Most Disliked Episode of VOYAGER - Final Round...

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  1. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    Here we have the winners and runners up of each season:

    Season One: CATHEXIS
    Wild Card: EMANATIONS
    Season Two: THRESHOLD
    Wild Card: TATTOO
    Season Three: FAVORITE SON
    Wild Card: CODA
    Season Four: UNFORGETTABLE
    Wild Card: RETROSPECT
    Season Five: THE DISEASE
    Wild Card: JUGGERNAUT
    Season Six: SPIRIT FOLK
    Wild Card: FAIR HAVEN
    Season Seven: FRIENDSHIP ONE
    Wild Card: Q2

    So now it is time for the final part.

    *RULES*

    Give what you consider to be the best/your most favorite episode ONE point, and briefly explain WHY. Be sure to copy and paste the list with your point added. When an episode reaches 4 points, it is eliminated. Then a NEW round begins (in this thread) with the numbers restored to 0. Vote ONCE per round. And enjoy! :bolian:
     
  2. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    I am starting with "CATHEXIS". I love the atmosphere and mood of the episode, and it was tense the entire time. This episode DOES NOT belong on this list.

    CATHEXIS
    - 1
    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 0
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 0
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  3. JaffreyPanthosa

    JaffreyPanthosa Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I’ll start with Retrospect. There’s so many phenomenally bad episodes on this list and Retrospect though it has its problems made Seven confront her guilt over what she was forced to do as Borg.

    CATHEXIS
    - 1
    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 0
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  4. BigDaveX

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    I'll cast a vote for Friendship One, which I think would have been a decent enough episode if they hadn't needlessly killed off Carey.

    CATHEXIS - 1
    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 0
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 1
    Q2 - 0
     
  5. Terok Nor

    Terok Nor Commodore Commodore

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    My vote goes to Coda. This is a good episode in my opinion. Janeway got the phage and the Doctor tried to put her out of her misery:lol:

    CATHEXIS - 1
    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 1
    Q2 - 0
     
  6. Boo-rennyren

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    My vote this round goes to "Cathexis." It had a tense atmosphere and a nice view of Robert Beltran's shoulders (which are approximately the breadth of a city block!).

    CATHEXIS - 2
    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 1
    Q2 - 0
     
  7. Mirror Sakonna

    Mirror Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Persuasive! I'll go "Cathexis" too, for knowing exactly how to play to Beltran's strengths -- keep him unconscious and shirtless.

    CATHEXIS - 3
    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 1
    Q2 - 0
     
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  8. Boo-rennyren

    Boo-rennyren Commodore Commodore

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    :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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  9. Seven of Five

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    Cathexis is gone. It's bad, but there are bigger stinkers amongst the remaining episodes.

    Allow me to reset the scores, and vote for my next choice, which is Retrospect. I vaguely remember it being decent, though the fact I'm having trouble remembering it at all should tell me why it's here in the final round.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 0
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  10. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    I will vote for "RETROSPECT" this round. Best episode left on this list. A good look at how good intentions can have really bad consequences.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 0
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 2
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  11. Mirror Sakonna

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    I recently rewatched "Retrospect", and wow do I hate it. The messaging is so confused, and the way it switches focus mid-stream pisses me off. The first half of the episode is the Doctor determining Seven has been violated, presenting it to everyone as conclusive proof ("There's no doubt that Seven was the victim of a brutal assault"), and convincing Seven that she must pursue vengeance, when she initially desires just to move on ("Resentment is a human trait. It has no structure, no function. I want no part of it.")

    THEN when they start discovering it's all bullshit... THEN the focus incredibly switches to Seven! The Doctor is the one who actually makes all the false accusations and generates the false memories, and then it's Seven the episode blames for it! The very last scene walks this back a little, but on the whole, I found this episode utterly infuriating.

    Anywho, my next point goes to "Juggernaut", which I also just rewatched and found satisfying. Good use of the Malon and Torres. This is an enjoyably tense little episode.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 0
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 2
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 1
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
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  12. Terok Nor

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    Coda again. Go back to Hell, you coward!

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    RETROSPECT - 2
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 1
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  13. Mareika

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    I vote for UNFORGETTABLE. I very like the interaction betwen the great Virginia Madsen and Robert Beltran.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 1
    RETROSPECT - 2
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 1
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 0
    Q2 - 0[/QUOTE]
     
  14. JaffreyPanthosa

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    Retrospect again.

    For me the other ‘okay’ eps left are Coda, Unforgettable and Juggernaut.

    After that I guess Emanations, then I have no idea what to vote for. Emanations is 2/10, and the other eight are 1/10 or lower. We will have a deserving winner.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 1
    RETROSPECT - 3
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 1
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  15. Voracious Vidiian

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    With the other shows, the episodes in the Final Round, it was pretty easy to figure out who would be the last one. Or at least the final 3.

    With VOYAGER, I honestly have no idea what the final 3 will be. And I suspect ENTERPRISE will be similar.
     
  16. Boo-rennyren

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    I'll take out "Retrospect." There was an idea there, even though it was terribly executed. End of round.

    While I'm at it, I will also cast my vote in the new round, this one for "Coda." Can't say the actors didn't commit in this one. Especially Robert; that was some deli-quality hamming.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 0
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  17. JaffreyPanthosa

    JaffreyPanthosa Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I’ll give a point to Forgettable, I mean Unforgettable. It’s one of the ones left that doesn’t have anything too terrible about it, just dullness.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 0
    Q2 - 0
     
  18. Voracious Vidiian

    Voracious Vidiian Commodore Commodore

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    "FRIENDSHIP ONE" gets my vote this round. It was good to see Carey one last time, and the plot was a decent one.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 1
    UNFORGETTABLE - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 1
    Q2 - 0
     
  19. Mirror Sakonna

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    I feel similarly re: not knowing where this is going to land. I bet we'll be at this final round awhile, it's such a diffuse list.

    I might rewatch one or two of these today before voting again...
     
  20. Seven of Five

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    Coda was fairly bad on the whole, but the first act or two were pretty decent, IIRC.

    EMANATIONS - 0
    THRESHOLD - 0
    TATTOO - 0
    FAVORITE SON - 0
    CODA - 2
    UNFORGETTABLE - 1
    THE DISEASE - 0
    JUGGERNAUT - 0
    SPIRIT FOLK - 0
    FAIR HAVEN - 0
    FRIENDSHIP ONE - 1
    Q2 - 0