The most disappointing Trek Movie..

[Admiral Shran]

For me it's either Insurrection or Trek XI.

Insurrection was such a letdown after First Contact. Nothing more than a two hour episode after FC made Trek exciting on the big screen again.

Trek XI - I hoped they would make a decent movie after the crapfest that was Nemesis. All we got were pretty explosions.

 

[Tan Ru]

ST:TMP

 

[BriGuy]

Most disappointing Trek film is easily Wrath of Khan. That pile of garbage has been played up as some second coming of the messiah for science fiction, and it's a movie I'd give a 3 or 4 out of 10 at best. Ties with Nemesis for amount of stupid developments that occur solely because the plot requires them to, though at least Nemesis definitely has more going for it overall.

Not sure which is the better reaction...

1. You have GOT to be kidding me!?!!??!!!

or

2. Hey, we found that guy who doesn't think Khan is the best Trek film!!!

 

[HaventGotALife]

Most disappointing Trek film is easily Wrath of Khan. That pile of garbage has been played up as some second coming of the messiah for science fiction, and it's a movie I'd give a 3 or 4 out of 10 at best. Ties with Nemesis for amount of stupid developments that occur solely because the plot requires them to, though at least Nemesis definitely has more going for it overall.

Not sure which is the better reaction...

1. You have GOT to be kidding me!?!!??!!!

or

2. Hey, we found that guy who doesn't think Khan is the best Trek film!!!

Don't forget that he values Nemesis over Khan.

 

[los2188]

Well everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Most of us, especially me, can watch Wrath of Khan over and over again and still get choked up towards the end when Spock died and Kirk makes his speech. Nemesis is a movie that I really don't think was that bad, but since the expectations of Nemesis was so great, to me that's why it failed so miserably. Also it didn't quite capture the soul on TNG and the editing was horrible. What could have been done differently in Nemesis, well who knows really. I'll talk to my people in high places to see if we can get one last TNG movie made. I'll be the in the lead villain role as Darth Khaner. Anyone else want a role?? I could use a good woman to play my love interest. The more the merrier! HAHA!!

 

[kirk55555]

Wrath of Kahn is my favorite ST movie, with Nemesis being #3 (behind first contact). I don't get why people don't like Nemesis. It had some stupid moments, but it was a fun story and a good end to TNG. Not the best, but a good end.

The Star Trek film by Abrahms is easily the most dissappointing for me. It doesn't seem like Star Trek to me, just a generic Sci-Fi/Action film with the Star Trek skin. To me, it didn't had a single redeeming feature. from a bad cast (the exception being McCoy and scotty) to a HORRIBLE Enterprise, I just don't like it at all.

 

[cblmc1296]

Wrath of Kahn is my favorite ST movie, with Nemesis being #3 (behind first contact). I don't get why people don't like Nemesis. It had some stupid moments, but it was a fun story and a good end to TNG. Not the best, but a good end.

The Star Trek film by Abrahms is easily the most dissappointing for me. It doesn't seem like Star Trek to me, just a generic Sci-Fi/Action film with the Star Trek skin. To me, it didn't had a single redeeming feature. from a bad cast (the exception being McCoy and scotty) to a HORRIBLE Enterprise, I just don't like it at all.

Well, I have to agree with your assessment of ST:2009. It's also my "most disappointing" Trek film.

As for Nemesis, my personal opinion is that it starts out strong and ends fairly strong but slogs pretty badly in between. I also thought Data's demise was incredibly predictable and spent most of the movie hoping I was wrong because it would have been really cool to be "led down the garden path" throughout the film and then get a big twist - but no such luck.

 

[MrPointy]

Tossing a coin over Generations or TFF.

Generations has it.

If you really think about it, Soran could have just flown himself into the Nexus in a freighter or a shuttle and that's it.

 

[KHAAAN]

I wonder how many folks here would say that Generations was a huge disappointment if Kirk hadn't died in it. That's what most of the criticism of this movie I hear is.

I'd say not so much the fact of Kirk dying, but that if they were going to show Kirk dying on screen, they should have at least done it in a meaningful story that counted for something. Generations came off like a not particularly good TNG two-parter, trying to be significant by killing Kirk and destroying the Enterprise D and not pulling that off.

 

[JWD75]

Generations was the most dissappointing for me. For a movie that had Picard and Kirk teaming up, the destruction of the Enterprise-D, and the death of Kirk; the story was incredibly lame and lazily written.

 

[Grant]

Search for Spock and Generations because they followed something real good with some much lesser

 

[JarodRussell]

The First Contact story with Kirk & Co instead of Cochrane would have been something.

 

[los2188]

The First Contact story with Kirk & Co instead of Cochrane would have been something.

You brought up an interesting thought about First Contact with Kirk. I assume you mean Kirk teamed with the TNG guys? That's interesting. If you wrote the script, what would be your plot summary??? And I'll need that double spaced and at least 60 pages long...and in the form of a question...haha!

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

TFF probably was dissapointing back in the day, especially considering it came off after a consistent array of entertaining Trek films that met the set standards. But I can accept as being the odd child, it has its own charm and in a lot of ways is like TOS at its cheesiest, but with heart to go along with it (another TOS staple).

Insurrection is dissapointing still, because TNG should've had a more challenging story than this, and if the problem really was the Dominion War, just take the story and set it before the thing, or afterwards, so it could bring back the spirit of the TNG galaxy pre-DS9 (in sort, a sequel to DS9 that explored a post-Dominion War space). As is, though, its an OK story that just never belonged to the big screen. Its entertaining enough, but its also forgettable a lot of the time, and thats not good, either. So... Its so-so.

Nemesis, contrary to many, I like. Hell, I believe the first two thirds of the film are every bit as good as The Future Begins (my title for Trek XI), if not slightly better because of the morality in-search that Picard and Data go through the film. Too bad they didn't make the last third of the picture as good. Oh, and the deleted scenes shouldn't have been deleted. At least, for the most part.

All in all, I really do believe that there is only one dissapointing Trek film, in how it continues to dissapoint and still offers nothing valuable or interesting to the viewer when watching it, and every time makes one think What If. And the film that does that is, Generations.

And its not just the mishandling and ultimate insult of a death for James T. Kirk that results to this conclusion. No. Its the fact that up until then, the movie makes a total mockery of TNG and its characters. Sure, it sounds great to continue the emotion chip storyline began in season four with Brothers and continued with the Descent two-parter, and to feature the Duras Sisters aboard a TUC battle cruiser. But the film handles even those fan-like moments with great ineptitude. Stewart and Spiner try to salvage the situation but fail, and Shatner is out of his element. The destruction of Ent-D lacks any emotion, as the original's destruction and even Ent-C generated when those ships met their ultimate fate, and could Malcom McDowell have ever been misused more?

Ah well, too much time complaining about this dreck. A truly awful film that doesn't any test, let alone that of time, and thus deserves to be bitched about forever.

 

[Gojira]

I do actually like all the movies and I really wasn't and am not really disappointed with any of them.

 

[sonak]

TFF probably was dissapointing back in the day, especially considering it came off after a consistent array of entertaining Trek films that met the set standards. But I can accept as being the odd child, it has its own charm and in a lot of ways is like TOS at its cheesiest, but with heart to go along with it (another TOS staple).

Insurrection is dissapointing still, because TNG should've had a more challenging story than this, and if the problem really was the Dominion War, just take the story and set it before the thing, or afterwards, so it could bring back the spirit of the TNG galaxy pre-DS9 (in sort, a sequel to DS9 that explored a post-Dominion War space). As is, though, its an OK story that just never belonged to the big screen. Its entertaining enough, but its also forgettable a lot of the time, and thats not good, either. So... Its so-so.

Nemesis, contrary to many, I like. Hell, I believe the first two thirds of the film are every bit as good as The Future Begins (my title for Trek XI), if not slightly better because of the morality in-search that Picard and Data go through the film. Too bad they didn't make the last third of the picture as good. Oh, and the deleted scenes shouldn't have been deleted. At least, for the most part.

All in all, I really do believe that there is only one dissapointing Trek film, in how it continues to dissapoint and still offers nothing valuable or interesting to the viewer when watching it, and every time makes one think What If. And the film that does that is, Generations.

And its not just the mishandling and ultimate insult of a death for James T. Kirk that results to this conclusion. No. Its the fact that up until then, the movie makes a total mockery of TNG and its characters. Sure, it sounds great to continue the emotion chip storyline began in season four with Brothers and continued with the Descent two-parter, and to feature the Duras Sisters aboard a TUC battle cruiser. But the film handles even those fan-like moments with great ineptitude. Stewart and Spiner try to salvage the situation but fail, and Shatner is out of his element. The destruction of Ent-D lacks any emotion, as the original's destruction and even Ent-C generated when those ships met their ultimate fate, and could Malcom McDowell have ever been misused more?

Ah well, too much time complaining about this dreck. A truly awful film that doesn't any test, let alone that of time, and thus deserves to be bitched about forever.

The level of vitriol that Generations gets consistently amazes me. A truly awful film, really? I think even professional reviews that weren't very enthusiastic about it would give it like a mediocre two-star review or something. I only see Star Trek fans refer to it as awful, which leads me to believe it's not an issue of quality, but a dislike of certain elements(such as Kirk's death).

 

[Grant]

^^It's not an incompetantly made movie like TFF, but everything from the nexus to the mishandled death of Kirk to the whole Kirk and his horse thing just rubs me the wrong way. TNG even more than TOS was an ensemble show and we just get Data and Picard and screw the rest. And the sailing ship instead of an opening battle because another writer said these movies always are expected to have battles. Yes there are 178 episodes of the show where there are plenty of reflective non-action themes but a once every two year or movie--yes action scenes please. Just not lame ones like a dune buggy chase!

 

[sonak]

^^It's not an incompetantly made movie like TFF, but everything from the nexus to the mishandled death of Kirk to the whole Kirk and his horse thing just rubs me the wrong way. TNG even more than TOS was an ensemble show and we just get Data and Picard and screw the rest. And the sailing ship instead of an opening battle because another writer said these movies always are expected to have battles. Yes there are 178 episodes of the show where there are plenty of reflective non-action themes but a once every two year or movie--yes action scenes please. Just not lame ones like a dune buggy chase!

right, OK, see that's what I mean. You can dislike the way Kirk's death was handled or how Data dominated the character stuff, etc, but there's a difference between saying "I didn't like these various story elements" and saying "this was an awful film." I don't really see how one can make the latter statement about Generations.

 

[Grant]

Yep, no doubt it is a quality made and acted movie--nothing to be embarrassed about--I just dont like the concepts and direction it took.

Despite the fact that TFF is not a quality made and acted movie, I actually prefer it. I like so many of the character bits from it that it makes up for the fact it is quite a step down from 1-4. I like that it a had a teaser, a goldsmith score, lots of location shooting, that it aimed high (it missed of course), that Shatner wanted to make it more action packed than the others (it wasnt carried off well of course) It did remind me of a TOS episode--just not the high quality big screen version I thought it would be.

But I hate when people call movies with many fine qualities pieces of sh*t.

I dislike many things about TSFS as well, but I would never stoop to calling a movie that doesnt follow my theory of how it should have been made a piece of sh*t.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

A competently-made film can still fail, and even more so when it is as contrived and fabricated as Generations. The Final Frontier, as bad as it may be, as incompetently made as it is, still tried to be about something, and got across its intended message too, even if that message ultimately sucked.

Really, I can't see anything about Generations that redeems it. Its a terrible film by all standards. I mean, Transformers 2 was a competently-made film, and that was the worst film of '09.

A turd is a turd. Period.