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The Last Jedi - Actually Widely Hated?

Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
Rey was retconned in episode 8. in the previous movie, Orange Yoda helped her see that her future lies ahead, all her longing, everything. But in the next movie, she's inexplicitly thinking of her parents again.
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Do you find it strange that she was thinking of something which had conditioned her life so far? :wtf:

I'm sorry, but did you ever interact with any actual human being?
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
I could spend all day.
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Errr, never mind...
 
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Rolling Stone did a wide-ranging interview with Kathleen Kennedy where she speaks about many issues, but particularly addresses the backlash from TLJ.

Rian Johnson made some controversial choices in Episode VIII: The Last Jedi. Especially considering its dramatic purpose as the second movie in the trilogy, were you, to an extent, deliberately setting out to challenge fans and their expectations?
We definitely did. We’re talking all the time about how we move Star Wars forward and how we keep it relevant. Obviously, we don’t want to just keep making the same movie over and over again. So I agree with you. I mean, I love what Rian did. It’s an absolutely wonderful movie. I think he’s an extraordinary filmmaker. And I really appreciated the bold moves that he did make. I think people forget that, especially when you’re doing a trilogy structure, the first movie is setting things up, the second is usually the conflict, and the third is the resolution. So you’re bound to have that second movie, much the same way Empire Strikes Back was probably the darkest and most dramatic of the three. We talked about it with Indiana Jones! You know, we did Raiders of the Ark and then we did Temple of Doom, which was dark and created a lot of controversy, and people were surprised at where it went with the storytelling, but, frankly, that’s the whole point!

I love that we have these amazingly passionate fans who care so much. And I know sometimes they may think we don’t listen, but we do, and I thought it was fantastic that people got that engaged. It just showed me and everybody else how much they care. And that’s important for all of us that are doing this. We really look at them as the custodians of this story as much as [we are]. We look at it as kind of a partnership.
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Campe98 said:
Rolling Stone did a wide-ranging interview with Kathleen Kennedy where she speaks about many issues, but particularly addresses the backlash from TLJ.
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I think she may have brushed off some of the more valid criticisms with "we went dark". comparing it to Temple of Doom isn't necessarily where I would have gone to explain my viewpoint, either.

I'm obviously not a fan of the Last Jedi. I maintain there's a good movie in there trying desperately to come out. My main issues were a very hokey space chase, a casino planet chase that didn't really seem plot critical and just a place to throw budget money, and finally and most importantly to me, the mishandling of Luke Skywalker. Other parts worked. It is not a film you get a second chance at. For me it helped me remind me that Star Wars isn't supposed to be an important cinematic event, it's supposed to be a ridiculously fun one: in this it failed. When it tries to get outside of its comfort zone, the seams start popping.
 
XCV330 said:
I think she may have brushed off some of the more valid criticisms with "we went dark". comparing it to Temple of Doom isn't necessarily where I would have gone to explain my viewpoint, either.

I'm obviously not a fan of the Last Jedi. I maintain there's a good movie in there trying desperately to come out. My main issues were a very hokey space chase, a casino planet chase that didn't really seem plot critical and just a place to throw budget money, and finally and most importantly to me, the mishandling of Luke Skywalker. Other parts worked. It is not a film you get a second chance at. For me it helped me remind me that Star Wars isn't supposed to be an important cinematic event, it's supposed to be a ridiculously fun one: in this it failed. When it tries to get outside of its comfort zone, the seams start popping.
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Luke Skywalker was perfect.

With that out of the way, the movie went out of its way to troll internet fandom. To me it almost felt like it was breaking the 4th wall several times. I actually enjoyed that aspect, but I could see how some would be offended by it.
 
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