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The Klingon Head

Hate to bring up Cannon again, but wouldnt a masked Klingon be antithetical to the entire society, i mean, quv Hutlh HoHbogh tlhIngan 'ach qabDaj 'angbe'bogh. especially if they are executioners, but a Klingon Hiding his face, generaly speaking, would be shameful to him, or am I wrong?
 
a Klingon Hiding his face, generaly speaking, would be shameful to him, or am I wrong?

When did canon say that?

Although her scenes were severely cut, Valeris wore a silver veil, with a rectangular eye slit, in ST III. You can still see it draped over her shoulders in her remaining scene.
 
Hate to bring up Cannon again, but wouldnt a masked Klingon be antithetical to the entire society, i mean, quv Hutlh HoHbogh tlhIngan 'ach qabDaj 'angbe'bogh. especially if they are executioners, but a Klingon Hiding his face, generaly speaking, would be shameful to him, or am I wrong?

generally speaking...I suppose. However, since we do not know the reason a Klingon (executioner or whatever) would wear a mask, then we can't speculate on whether or not wearing a mask is indicative of "shame".

Perhaps there is some valid cultural reason that makes wearing a mask the "honorable Klingon" thing to do.
 
well, since cannon cant speak, i suppose it never did, but its been imply'd by the statement The Klingon who kills without showing his face has no honor.

now, that being said, I suppose that Execution is considered a Dishonorable way to die, and the masks are some sort of cultural thing to keep the said executioner from the theological repercussions of Killing someone dishonorably, if indeed thats what the masked Klingons are, otherwise, I guess we will just have to wait till May
 
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^^ Is there a reason for considering these guys Executioners, or can they simply be Klingon prison guards?

I'm asking becuase I personally don't know -- was there some information that I missed that told us these masked guys are executioners? (and there very well could have been.)
 
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It occurs to me that this could be another of J.J. Abrams games. Remember, he likes to use the metaphor of the "magic box" to describe much of his suspense work. Whether it's the Smoke Monster from Lost, the Rabbit's Foot from MI:3, the Rambaldi mystery from Alias, or the Pattern from Fringe, he has a tendency to promote a sense of mystery in his audience, even when he himself has only a tentative notion of what the true solutions are.

The masked Klingons could be like that. A very particular "magic box", and love letter to hardcore Trek fans. What lies underneath the helmet? Is Chang's great grandson underneath there? Or a Mongol look-a-like? Perhaps a member of the House of Duras? Abrams may just keep us guessing.
 
Oh god, oh god, oh god.

You're basing your asumption on half a second of a trailer? Not to mention that Klingons of TOS had NO ridges.

Some didn't...some DID (we just didn't see them)...

At any rate, my understanding is that 99.9% of the Klinon material got pulled and JJ is saving them for the next movie (if there is one).
 
Oh god, oh god, oh god.

You're basing your asumption on half a second of a trailer? Not to mention that Klingons of TOS had NO ridges.

Some didn't...some DID (we just didn't see them)...

At any rate, my understanding is that 99.9% of the Klinon material got pulled and JJ is saving them for the next movie (if there is one).

There's a mistake. Klingons don't reheat well.
 
Oh god, oh god, oh god.

You're basing your asumption on half a second of a trailer? Not to mention that Klingons of TOS had NO ridges.

Some didn't...some DID (we just didn't see them)...

At any rate, my understanding is that 99.9% of the Klinon material got pulled and JJ is saving them for the next movie (if there is one).
From what I recall, Abrams said (mid-November) that there had been a Klingon-focused subplot which he thought was good, but which he also thought would be confusing to some portions of the audience; it was decided to omit it from this movie for that reason. He said further that the designs intended for that segment might be used elsewhere, but I don't think he said the same about the subplot story itself.

TrekMovie.com article

EmpireOnline article
"There was a big Klingon subplot in this," Abrams told us, "and we actually ended up having to pull it out because it confused the story in a way that I thought was very cool but unnecessary. So we have these beautiful designs that we’re going to have to wait and do elsewhere I guess."
TrekToday News item
 
Hate to bring up Cannon again, but wouldnt a masked Klingon be antithetical to the entire society, i mean, quv Hutlh HoHbogh tlhIngan 'ach qabDaj 'angbe'bogh. especially if they are executioners, but a Klingon Hiding his face, generaly speaking, would be shameful to him, or am I wrong?

If you are referring to a large gun that fires metal balls, it's a CANNON.

If you are referring to the accepted history of a subject, it's CANON.
 
ENTERPRISE's timeline is still canon no matter how much of the TOS history is altered by Nero's interference and Spock's corrections. Which means the Levodian flu mutation and Augment DNA are still the official explanations for smooth Klingon foreheads.
 
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