Hope everyone had a good christmas. I had a good one with family down here in Melbourne.
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I am having Xmas tomorrow!!
I hope you all had a lovely day
I hope you all had a lovely day
Wow! Did not know daylight saving was so far behind in Melbourne!
Have a read of this, proposing the idea Abbot always knew he was going to be a one term PM. I don't agree with everything the guy says, but worth the read:
https://independentaustralia.net/po...m-tony-doesnt-care,7224#.VJ9CNll7-NA.facebook
And yes, we should be checking up his citizenship.
Have a read of this, proposing the idea Abbot always knew he was going to be a one term PM. I don't agree with everything the guy says, but worth the read:
https://independentaustralia.net/po...m-tony-doesnt-care,7224#.VJ9CNll7-NA.facebook
And yes, we should be checking up his citizenship.
Wow! Did not know daylight saving was so far behind in Melbourne!
Have a read of this, proposing the idea Abbot always knew he was going to be a one term PM. I don't agree with everything the guy says, but worth the read:
https://independentaustralia.net/po...m-tony-doesnt-care,7224#.VJ9CNll7-NA.facebook
And yes, we should be checking up his citizenship.
Not so sure that Shorten is quite the dud he's been made out to be. Sure he's not much chop as opposition leader but doesn't mean he wouldn't be a good P.M. The two jobs require different sorts of tempraments. Some-one like abbott can be a pit bull opposition leader but that's not what you want in a P.M but it's what Australia has and it's not working.
It appears that Queensland is becoming even more of a nanny state.Tanning beds are now outlawed and smokers now have to be 5 m from the grounds of hospitals. The latter seems like a good idea, but I'm a little pissed about it. It's about punishing smokers not preventing people from taking it up. If they want to keep smokers from non-smokers that's fine, put in designated smoking areas. Making sick people trudge down to a major road in order to have a smoke is ridiculous.
Especially annoyed when it comes to private hospitals. I spent a few years in and out of psych hospital (yep, I am a little crazy
) and the last thing I needed was to be told I couldn't smoke. My psych would have chucked an absolute fit if I'd tried. Yet the government knows better than my doctor what is good for my health.Even now, my doctor doesn't want me to quit and I'm about as normal as I'm ever going to get. I've switched to those electronic cigarettes which is 1000 times better for you but even that the government wants to stop.
Darn politicians, think they know what is best for everyone.
Your hospitals must be small. Our major hospitals are huge and going to the road is no small trip, especially for the seriously ill. Granted, forcing people to stand on the side of a major road (where hospitals tend to be located) isn't something I'm fond of either when there are other options available.
Keep in mind, people in a psych hospital are often not allowed to leave. They're the ones I'm really pissed about. The government is basically telling them they have to quit. Despite the fact that the majority of their doctors are telling them not to. Smoking may be bad for your health, but if they've in a psych hospital they've got bigger problems that need to be dealt with first. Quitting may actually only make them worse. Hence why psych doctors don't routinely encourage their patients to quit.
I honestly don't see why we have to move smokers to the side of major roads rather than allowing designated smoking areas. It has worked just fine in every private hospital I've been in. Also works just fine in every pub/club. Keep in mind we're talking Queensland. Designated smoking areas aren' just wherever someone happens to be so long as they're outside. We already have very strict rules about where you can and can't smoke.
Keep in mind, people in a psych hospital are often not allowed to leave. They're the ones I'm really pissed about. The government is basically telling them they have to quit. Despite the fact that the majority of their doctors are telling them not to. Smoking may be bad for your health, but if they've in a psych hospital they've got bigger problems that need to be dealt with first. Quitting may actually only make them worse. Hence why psych doctors don't routinely encourage their patients to quit.
I honestly don't see why we have to move smokers to the side of major roads rather than allowing designated smoking areas. It has worked just fine in every private hospital I've been in. Also works just fine in every pub/club. Keep in mind we're talking Queensland. Designated smoking areas aren' just wherever someone happens to be so long as they're outside. We already have very strict rules about where you can and can't smoke.
Tanning beds are now outlawed and smokers now have to be 5 m from the grounds of hospitals. The latter seems like a good idea, but I'm a little pissed about it. It's about punishing smokers not preventing people from taking it up. If they want to keep smokers from non-smokers that's fine, put in designated smoking areas. Making sick people trudge down to a major road in order to have a smoke is ridiculous.
Especially annoyed when it comes to private hospitals. I spent a few years in and out of psych hospital (yep, I am a little crazy
Even now, my doctor doesn't want me to quit and I'm about as normal as I'm ever going to get. I've switched to those electronic cigarettes which is 1000 times better for you but even that the government wants to stop.
Darn politicians, think they know what is best for everyone.
The ban on tanning beds is spreading around Australia state by state and has been on the cards for a number of years now.
Just give people a smoker's area, it's not hard. They just want to be seen doing something so they make it a bigger ban, but has having a smoker's area ever actually caused problems? Are they going to ban smoking in rehab places because that would be also utter bullshit.
As to tanning beds, fuck 'em. This is a country of socialized medicine, if they are going to pay for our skin cancers which are I believe the highest in the world they can ban those totally unnecessary and dangerous things. They won't ban cigarettes because you'd just end up with a black market, but if you want a nice tan despite warnings you can get one for free. There is no social, cultural, historical reason to have tanning beds unlike most foods and drinks that are normalized and possibly bad for you.
Cigarette tax has certainly cut down on how much people smoke. I remember when I was a teenager it was normal to smoke a pack a day, now people eek them out over a week or roll verrrrrrrrry thin rollies
As to tanning beds, fuck 'em. This is a country of socialized medicine, if they are going to pay for our skin cancers which are I believe the highest in the world they can ban those totally unnecessary and dangerous things. They won't ban cigarettes because you'd just end up with a black market, but if you want a nice tan despite warnings you can get one for free. There is no social, cultural, historical reason to have tanning beds unlike most foods and drinks that are normalized and possibly bad for you.
Cigarette tax has certainly cut down on how much people smoke. I remember when I was a teenager it was normal to smoke a pack a day, now people eek them out over a week or roll verrrrrrrrry thin rollies
Problems is that give you smokers areas to puff away in and they don't. They stay right in the same god-dammed spot and light up.
Why the fuck should I have to walk through a cloud of smoke to enter a building because the smokers insist on standing there in what's supposed to be a non-smoking area but won't move an extra few feet away where it is allowed.
Then there's the butts they leave all over the place. A few years back I saw one dumb fuck flick her butt in the dry bushses at tram spot. The bushes were dry becasue it was a heat wave, no rain and there fire bans in effect.
Or smokers who insist on proping open fire doors etc so they can shoot out for a smoke. About 8 years ago the head of mental health in South Australia was shot dead after the killer entered the building through a firedoor that had been wedged open and by-passed security.
They won't ban cigarettes because you'd just end up with a black market, but if you want a nice tan despite warnings you can get one for free. There is no social, cultural, historical reason to have tanning beds unlike most foods and drinks that are normalized and possibly bad for you.
Cigarette tax has certainly cut down on how much people smoke. I remember when I was a teenager it was normal to smoke a pack a day, now people eek them out over a week or roll verrrrrrrrry thin rollies
Back when Moses played fullback for Collingwood?
Cigarette tax has been a factor but I think also the overall rise in price and the lifting of the smoking age (no going in a buying a packet of Escort Reds when you turned 16).
I also had a laugh at the sqwaking from the tobacco lobby when the Gillard government introduced plain packaging. In Canada packing don't matter a jot. You can't see them becaue they are all kept under the shutters and have to ask for them by name.
Ours are under the shutters too now. It amuses me when people are asking for winfield blue or whatever, how does anyone still have any attachment to brands when all the packages are a dull gold with a gorey photo? I'd imagine the next generation will go in and just ask for the cheapest.
I guess I've never been inconvenienced by smokers, at the local hospital last time I was there there was kind of courtyard for it. There are big painted signs on the asphalt near the entrances that you can't smoke there and you can see people standing in the carpark doing it. I'll take your word for it though.
I guess I've never been inconvenienced by smokers, at the local hospital last time I was there there was kind of courtyard for it. There are big painted signs on the asphalt near the entrances that you can't smoke there and you can see people standing in the carpark doing it. I'll take your word for it though.
It was a rather bizarre argument against the plain package becasue I never really understood it.
Somehow if they weren't able to see the fancy packaging people wouldn't know which brand to buy or something.
One thing I noticed over the years that smokers tended to be very brand loyal. Have no idea how they start on them and whether advertising worked.
Escort reds were cheap for young smokers so that was a starter. No idea about the rest.
Do you remember Paul Hogan and his cigarette advertising?
It was about the time Jack Thompson was doing his Clayton's ads (and by all accounts or wikipedia at least, it was noxious stuff).
I remember when you could buy Viscount 10s. If they weren't for schoolkids, I don't know what were.
I think a plastics manufacturer is missing a big trick by no marketing plastic sleeves that the pack can slip into, with a picture of a beach or something on it. Ethically dubious, but it'd make a packet. Uhh, no pun intended.
In what ways was Clayton's noxious? I think I;'ve had it. Definitely something you mixed with Coke, lemonade etc. Not to drink by itself.
I think a plastics manufacturer is missing a big trick by no marketing plastic sleeves that the pack can slip into, with a picture of a beach or something on it. Ethically dubious, but it'd make a packet. Uhh, no pun intended.
In what ways was Clayton's noxious? I think I;'ve had it. Definitely something you mixed with Coke, lemonade etc. Not to drink by itself.
I remember when Tony Barber did the whistling commercial for Cambridge Cigarettes back in 1969 before he was host on Dale of the Century. A packet of cigarettes cost 34c back then.
I work near the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Sydney, and if you've been near it you've seen all the smokers smoking out front, including people in hospital gowns pushing IV trolleys. They do look rather pathetic. (The hospital staff huddle behind the nearby 7-11 for their smoke. I believe there is also an official smoking zone, but have no idea where it is.) People with breathing problems would have to walk through this mess to get into the hospital, so the 5 metre rule makes a lot of sense.
Frankly, I'd prefer people inject heroin than smoke cigarettes - at least that way I wouldn't have to smell it.
Frankly, I'd prefer people inject heroin than smoke cigarettes - at least that way I wouldn't have to smell it.
I don't think I remember the Clayton's commercials but I do still use the word claytons at times and it has definitely disappeared from the vocabulary of people a lot younger. Which is a shame because it's a good word. I seem to remember seeing it in magazines, the ads.
As to whether it was noxious, seems to be basically pointless unless it was delicious. Which apparently it wasn't? I don't know, never had it.
As to whether it was noxious, seems to be basically pointless unless it was delicious. Which apparently it wasn't? I don't know, never had it.
^ claytons as a word. Like the claytons politicians we have to day? The politicians you have when you're not having politicians...
Well, I'm quite ipissed already and having a fantastic time with STID, prog rock wine and very nice nibblies. To all the people in the DUL, as:the Scots say:
Here's to us, who like us? Damn few, and they're all dead.
Catch you on the flip side!
Well, I'm quite ipissed already and having a fantastic time with STID, prog rock wine and very nice nibblies. To all the people in the DUL, as:the Scots say:
Here's to us, who like us? Damn few, and they're all dead.
Catch you on the flip side!
