Spoilers The Acolyte

[YellowSubmarine]

Saying Palps created Anakin has always been a reach at best. There is nothing in the films to back it up. Literally nothing.

There's no canon source to confirm it, but Palpatine's mumbling about creating life definitely lends support to it, and considering the obvious implication by extrapolating in a straight line is not a reach (inb4 someone says that's the literal meaning of line extrapolation ). If it turns out a coven of witches created twins using the Force (unconfirmed as of yet, either), it would recontextualize ROTS and make it even more likely, of course.

I believe mother Aniseya's actual actions will remain a mystery at the end of the series, and like Anakin's origin and Palpatine's comment, open to interpretation (even if less so). But nothing wrong with someone preferring the most literal and straight interpretation that had been obvious to the writers in both cases. No need to disregard that by saying there's none support for it in canon whatsoever.

On the other hand, given the difficulties with project Necromancer, and the importance it had to the emperor, one can argue against technological means for the creation of Mae and Osha, and conversely against Palpatine finding it so easy to just create Anakin directly. Of course, arguing both would imply this witches excelled over Palpatine in something (which would be too fascinating to just brush over with a throwaway line). And project Necromancer is not necessarily comparable for it was intended to resurrect a particular person, retain his complete Force sensitivity, then recover his memories, when no Force users were available to assist the process.

Also, not only it's additional context that didn't exist at the time of ROTS, but it's additional context created specifically to excuse the silliness of TROS. I feel like The Acolyte fits more naturally in, and follows from what's been established about the Force and the Star Wars universe so far.

 

[Set Harth]

Aniseya.... Ani... see ya...

it all makes sense to me now

 

[Ithekro]

Genetically speaking, it would probably be easier to make female twins in the Force from a donors eggs than making a male child. Force based cloning could be possible, but how would you introduce male chromosomes?

 

[Captrek]

Genetically speaking, it would probably be easier to make female twins in the Force from a donors eggs than making a male child. Force based cloning could be possible, but how would you introduce male chromosomes?

Add the SRY gene to an X chromosome and it becomes effectively a Y chromosome.

See XX male syndrome, in which the inclusion of the SRY gene leads to an XX subject developing as male or intersex.

True, men with XX syndrome are generally infertile, but maybe things are a little different in the Star Wars galaxy.

 

[DigificWriter]

Palpatine's mumbling about creating life definitely lends support to it

Except it doesn't because Palpatine openly admits after Anakin turns that he doesn't actually possess the secrets of creating life and preventing people from dying despite misleading Anakin into believing otherwise.

Also, as has been noted, that ScreenRant article was and is unequivocally wrong, as it was definitively confirmed by both Lucasfilm Story Group member Matt Martin and the writer of actual Vader comics themselves that Palpatine had absolutely nothing to do with Anakin's conception

 

[Set Harth]

Except it doesn't because Palpatine openly admits after Anakin turns that he doesn't actually possess the secrets of creating life and preventing people from dying despite misleading Anakin into believing otherwise.

He said nothing of creating life at that point, only "to cheat death".

 

[DigificWriter]

He said nothing of creating life at that point, only "to cheat death".

Nope.

Palpatine opens the Opera House conversation by mentioning that Plagueis could influence the Midichloreans to create life and then follows it up with talking about Plagueis being able to keep people from dying.

If you don't believe me, rewatch the scene for yourself:

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[Set Harth]

But you said "after Anakin turns", i was talking about that point. Nothing more is said about life creation.

 

[Ithekro]

Despite Palatine's works, he is unable to perfect a process that allows him to continue his life until nearly 200 years after these twins are born.

 

[JD]

I'm assuming cloning a person is going to be a lot harder and more complicated that just making two entirely new people. For the new people you can pretty much just come out with anybody who's human and alive, but for a clone you have much more specific parameters you have to meet. We already know that he'd created Snoke and Rey's father, so obviously creating life wasn't the problem, it was creating an exact duplicate of himself that was the issue.

 

[Ithekro]

It is also realizing just how far back this really is.
100 years before TPM, plus 16 years for flashback, plus 8 years old. So the twins were born around 156 BBY. Over a hundred years before Anakin Skywalker. About 190 years before TFA.

So the Rey film will be over 200 years after the birth of Osha and Mae.

 

[The Wormhole]

Same hairstyle so many years apart, makes me want to believe they are clones and not twins

Hairstyles aren't genetic though. Even clones can still have different hairstyles. Many of the Clone Troopers did.

 

[Set Harth]

It is also realizing just how far back this really is.
100 years before TPM, plus 16 years for flashback, plus 8 years old. So the twins were born around 156 BBY. Over a hundred years before Anakin Skywalker. About 190 years before TFA.

So the Rey film will be over 200 years after the birth of Osha and Mae.

The opening text said, iirc, 100 years before the rise of the Empire. Read overly literally wouldn't that mean 100 years before ROTS as opposed to 100 years before TPM?

 

[DigificWriter]

The opening text said, iirc, 100 years before the rise of the Empire. Read overly literally wouldn't that mean 100 years before ROTS as opposed to 100 years before TPM?

No, because the reference is generic, not specific.
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[Ithekro]

We will find out eventually.

 

[DigificWriter]

We will find out eventually.

There's nothing to 'find out'; it's already been stated that The Acolyte takes place in 132 BBY, exactly 100 years equidistant between the events of Phases 1 and 3 of The High Republic publishing initiative and the events of The Phantom Menace.

 

[Captrek]

There's nothing to 'find out'; it's already been stated that The Acolyte takes place in 132 BBY, exactly 100 years equidistant between the events of Phases 1 and 3 of The High Republic publishing initiative and the events of The Phantom Menace.

Speaking of the former, I wonder if YJA S2 will touch on the fall of Starlight Beacon. It seems awfully grim for a TV-Y7 show, but it also seems strange that they should choose to date YJA when they did without intending to touch on the major event happening at the same time.

 

[thribs]

That could still be a Bith under that helmet. I seriously doubt it's Mae's partner. Seems way too on the nose.
Is that rat like alien called Basil a Fawlty Towers reference? I hope so

 

[Tuskin38]

Oh hey, Ki-Adi-Mundi

 

[Skywalker]

Gaaahhhh, how could they just end the episode right there?! I'm gonna be anxious all week now!