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The 82nd Academy Awards & STAR TREK

Even with the Best Picture nominees expanded to 10, I don't expect Star Trek to make it. For one thing, it's been a pretty strong year for movies in general, and while Star Trek has been nearly universally praised, that means that most people liked it, as opposed to nearly everyone LOVING it. Every critical review I've read has given the film above average, rather than as a superior film. It's a film that most people can agree to like, but disagree as to how much they like it.

Actually, 2009 is turning out to be pretty weak. There's been buzz for very few Oscar-bait films, other than "A Serious Man," "Nine," "The Hurt Locker," and "Precious." "Amelia" crapped out, "The Lovely Bones" hasn't really generated much buzz and the trailer doesn't look that promising.

Among bigger films, "Up" and "Star Trek" seem to have received the highest raves. "Where the Wild Things Are" has turned out to be somewhat divisive (with people really liking it or really hating it).
 
They should have a casting award; casting was golden.

Yeah, they've been opposed to adding that as a category.
Wow, didn't know it was seriously under consideration. Interesting.

I'm surprised that it isn't already a category. The Emmys have it.

Of the major awards, I can see Zachary Quinto getting a nomination for Best Supporting Actor. Not much beyond that. :(

Still, it's been a light year for big draaahma films. We haven't see the fall Oscars bait yet, but if it continues to be light, Trek XI has a shot.
 
Best Sound and Sound editing - these two are a no-brainer, IMO
Mach5 I disagree.
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
With 46 robots I think the sound design & editing will go to Transformers2.
This article details all 2009's films for Sound Effects editing so far...
TECH SUPPORT: Best Sound Editing — Volume II

This article details Transformers2 extensive sound work.

Best Score - music was far from brilliant, but far worse scores have been known to win it
I think Up should get it. Same composer as Trek XI but very moving music.

Trek XI may have a good shot at Art direction.
 
Star Trek, while it was a decent film, is nowhere near good enough to merit an award outside of effects.
 
I was one of those people who thought The Dark Knight was a shoo-in for a Best Picture nomination. Not that'd win, but it'd get nominated. The critical/popular momentum combined with the enormous box office gross... well, Hollywood tends to like films that critics gave a pass to that audiences drove to box office superstardom. Just ask Ben-Hur, Titanic, and Return of the King, the box office epic extravaganzas which between each other are loaded with a party of golden men. I didn't necessarily think The Dark Knight would join their storied number or even win anything (aside from Heath Ledger's win, which had become mandatory via his death), but I figured nominations were a given. Not even because I liked TDK or believed it 'deserved' these awards, just because the logic behind it made sense to me.

Yeah, I was wrong. But if the ten-picture nomination scheme was permitted so Hollywood could avoid ignoring pictures like Dark Knight altogether, as some have claimed to be the case, then critical/financial hits like Star Trek and District 9 seem like fairly probable picks for Oscar nominations. They're popular and, unlike Transformers 2, they're liked by critics. District 9 has more chances because it has more credibility - the gritty South African social commentary aspect to it, while the Star Trek film was unabashed escapism.

I would love, LOVE to see Moon nominated for something but nobody has seen or remembered that film so I really doubt if it'll even get a pity visual effects nod (though the effects are amazing and even more amazing when you know what the budget was).

Avatar seems less likely than Star Trek or District 9 to me to pick up noms as far as films go, but then again the film is being released late and may buck initial mouthing off to become another critical/commerical success. James Cameron has had a pretty respectable Oscar track record - a nomination for an actress in a sci-fi movie, and also the aforesaid Titanic. But right now I'm ruling anything aside the obligatory SFX noms as pretty unlikely. And I really liked both trailers and am eagerly looking forward to the movie.

Also, random opinion, but not even 1939 was 1939. Flame away all you want, but Gone with the Wind is pretty goddamn mediocre and tiresome, also Dark Victory is decidedly eh.

Oh, yes, and not only do I say Inglourious Basterds getting a ton of nominations, it's going to win. Unless Hurt Locker gives it a knockout, but damn it I liked Inglourious Basterds better and I think Tarantino's time is due, so to speak, to get that Best Picture thingamajig.

(Also crap I want to see A Serious Man yesterday. 20th November, cannot come soon enough.)
 
The field was expanded to 10 in order to shore up the ratings of the actual awards show, according to the article cited in Mv's post #35. They don't seem to be concerned with including popular shows for any other reason than getting more viewers for Oscar night. Titanic's year is the benchmark they all keep fruitlessly dreaming about.
 
If big budget blockbusters get snubbed by the Oscars, explain Gone With The Wind; Titanic; and Gladiator's wins?

Titanic was the biggest, overrated, lowest common denominator, piece of garbage popcorn film ever, and it won the big gong.

I am glad they're upping the Best Picture category to ten nominations. It may mean Trek will get a nomination. It won't win (damn Oscars this year snobbed off the Trek trailer altogether when they ran upcoming blockbuster trailers), but its better than nothing.
 
It surprises me some Trek fans don't think it will get nominated, lets say 7 of the spots up to now are already taken not including Trek, what would prevent it in the incoming movies in the next 2 months 2012, New Moon, Avatar? Nah when you look at the movie's for 2009, there just isn't that many gutsy artsy popular flicks out there. District 9, The Hurt Locker stand out from the pack but that's about it. That leaves 8 open spots. If it's an environmentalists year you could add "The Cove".
 
^That's why there's speculation that random stuff, including documentaries and foreign films could slip into the ten nominees. I have no idea whether Trek is going to get in or not.

These are the only films I think are shoo-ins for Best Picture right now:
- The Hurt Locker
- Invictus
- A Serious Man
- Precious
- Up
- Nine

Other possibilities:
- Bright Star
- An Education
- Up in the Air
- Lovely Bones
- District 9
 
These are the only films I think are shoo-ins for Best Picture right now:
[...]
- Up
Really? What'll happen to Best Animated Film, then? Will Pixar really gamble for the big time as opposed to settling for a category they are guaranteed to win (after Ratatouille beat Persepolis I think it can be safe to say Pixar has to make bad or at least mediocre films to ever lose this spot).

It'll also open up the question as what films get nominated there, and which ones win. If Up goes go for Best Picture, then I hope Coraline brings home the animated Oscar - but then again, there's probably competition I haven't heard of.
 
If it gets any major nominations it WILL bring more attention to the franchise, but I doubt it will get any wins. My prediction: 7-8 nominations! You read it here!

RAMA
 
These are the only films I think are shoo-ins for Best Picture right now:
[...]
- Up
Really? What'll happen to Best Animated Film, then? Will Pixar really gamble for the big time as opposed to settling for a category they are guaranteed to win (after Ratatouille beat Persepolis I think it can be safe to say Pixar has to make bad or at least mediocre films to ever lose this spot).

It'll also open up the question as what films get nominated there, and which ones win. If Up goes go for Best Picture, then I hope Coraline brings home the animated Oscar - but then again, there's probably competition I haven't heard of.

A film can actually be nominated for Best Animated Film and Best Picture according to the rules. Best Foreign Language Film should be the same. It's their way of addressing the criticism that films could be Best Picture caliber, but would otherwise are relegated to niche categories.

http://www.oscars.org/awards/academyawards/rules/rule07.html:
Films submitted in the Animated Feature Film category may qualify for Academy Awards in other categories, including Best Picture, provided they comply with the rules governing those categories.
 
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I was one of those people who thought The Dark Knight was a shoo-in for a Best Picture nomination.


Well, Dark Knight would have received a nomination but it was not set in the Prime Universe and, therefore, sucked.





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Actually the reason "The Dark Knight" got snubbed was because it was a "comic book" movie.

If that were true then The Dark Knight wouldn't have gotten any of the following nominations or awards:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_The_Dark_Knight

Best Picture has always been political, and all about the campaign. Certain films just almost automatically get nominated just because their designed to be nominated.
I was only talking about the Academy Awards. I kind of thought that was obvious since this is a thread about the Academy Awards. I note that it only won two awards, and one of them came off as a pity award because the actor nominated died. The fact is it should have been deserving at least a nomination for best film, but it got snubbed along with basically every other comic book, animated, or science fiction movie. Hell, the only reason there's a category for animated films now is because there were people within the academy who didn't like that "Beauty and the Beast" won best film.
 
I didn't rate The Dark Knight. I don't think it's as highly rated amongst the great unwashed as you might think. The critics loved it for sure.
 
If big budget blockbusters get snubbed by the Oscars, explain Gone With The Wind; Titanic; and Gladiator's wins?

Titanic was the biggest, overrated, lowest common denominator, piece of garbage popcorn film ever, and it won the big gong.


Heeeey, wait a minute! Titanic made me cry! Okay I was 14, but the memory is a fond one. :p
 
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