The 60th Anniversary??

[I am not Spock]

the 30th anniversary i remember being a pretty big event. I remember it well, i was a teenager.

We had First Contact being released, and anniversary episode of DS9 and VOY.
Tie in magazines, TV specials. I was in the UK at the time, Radio Times did a big Star Trek 30th anniversary book (which i still have).

the 40th was a big disappointment. ENT had finished the year before, and we got...nothing. I think a few videogames came out in 06. Star Trek Legacy and Star Trek Encounters.

The 50th was disappointing too. Sure, we got Beyond released, but it was soured because of the tragic death of Yelchin and the movie subsequently disappointing at the box office.

Hopefully SNW will do a 60th anniversary episode next year. It's probably too late now, but they could have had a movie out next year too. I am still furious about Lower Decks ending, because you know McMahan would have delivered a kick ass 60th special

 

[I am not Spock]

the most we can probably expect is a lame video by Paramount/CBS hosted by someone from one of the current shows, which excludes Prodigy

 

[Procutus]

Although I still think my SNW idea is feasible (see Page 1) I just simply don't see it happening,. Which is a shame, because it would give the TOS characters they type of final mission they never got with the original show.

 

[El Maestro]

I am setting course for disappointment

 

[Procutus]

^

Probably a wise idea.

 

[Steve Roby]

It is my hope as a lifelong Star Trek fan (born in '76 and grew up with TOS reruns, movies, and all spin-offs as they aired) is that we will see dramatic decisions made regarding tone and continuity.

I'm a lifelong Star Trek fan who was born in 1963, so I claim seniority.

I don't want to cause arguments about what is and isn't Trek, so I'll avoid that by saying that I'd like to see some radical ideas explored going forward. For example, the rights holders (may not be CBS) could decide to ignore everything since 2009 and do a continuation of the Berman era of Trek. Such an approach could mean that Nemesis was the last we saw of the 24th century and a new series is set on an Enterprise fifty to a hundred years after.

Oh, hell, no. Fan worship of the Berman era is why Terry Matalas taking over Picard was a disaster. Season 1 was about taking the character somewhere new, season 2 was a mess, season 3 was Matalas pissing on everything good the show had tried to do earlier and sucking up to the people who only ever liked TNG. We don't all think TNG is the platonic ideal of all things Star Trek.

I don't understand why people who hate the current iterations of trek would want Ronald D Moore to be in charge. He has been very outspoken about the weaknesses of the Berman era. Battlestar Galactica was created by Moore as a direct consequence of how creatively stifled he was by writing for 90's trek.

Yes, Galactica was Ron Moore saying, over and over and over, Berman never let me do THIS! An android that's 100% indistinguishable from humans gets a red glowing spine during orgasm! A lawyer needs to take a crap! A doctor smokes cigarettes in sickbay! People get obsessed with a Bob Dylan song! Take THAT, Berman! And the show was wildly exciting. For most of a season or so. Then it just crashed and burned in slow motion for another two or three years.

Yep "30 Years and Beyond." Kate Mulgrew and the Frasier cast. John de Lancie. John Larroquette. Leonard Nimoy and Patrick Stewart calling in.

I remember watching that at the time. I thought it sounded like it could be great. I was wrong.

Star Trek's 30th anniversary was a big deal, and was treated as one, not because it was the 30th, but because Star Trek had never been more popular. For example, more Star Trek books, official and unofficial, were published in 1996 than any other year (over 80 books, as I recall). But not everything stays that popular forever.

And then Discovery brought Star Trek back, into a very different world. And it worked. We've had much more good, solid Star Trek in the last eight years than I could have expected in the days of Nemesis and Enterprise. And the world is changing again, with corporate mergers, streaming services having financial issues, etc. Will we get any big deal for the 60th? Maybe not. But we'll have at least two Star Trek TV series running. And that's not a bad thing at all.

 

[The Wormhole]

A doctor smokes cigarettes in sickbay!

With that one, Ron Moore explained on a DVD commentary that he just thought the idea of a doctor smoking a cigarette while treating a cancer patient was funny.

 

[Steve Roby]

With that one, Ron Moore explained on a DVD commentary that he just thought the idea of a doctor smoking a cigarette while treating a cancer patient was funny.

I'm guessing he didn't know any cancer patients at that point in his life, then.

 

[The Wormhole]

Well, the full quote was something like "I just thought it was funny, this guy is a doctor, so he obviously cares about people, yet he smokes a cigarette while treating a cancer patient."

 

[Steve Roby]

I guess I don't have much of a sense of humour. My wife and I stood in a hospice watching her mother die of cancer about a year after Moore's Galactica premiered. Six years ago I was sitting in another hospice holding my wife's hand while she died of cancer.

 

[The Wormhole]

My condolences.

 

[Steve Roby]

But to get back on topic... even if nothing special happens for the 60th, we've still got new Star Trek on our screens. Beats the 40th.

 

[Quinton]

But to get back on topic... even if nothing special happens for the 60th, we've still got new Star Trek on our screens. Beats the 40th.

Damn right!

 

[fireproof78]

But to get back on topic... even if nothing special happens for the 60th, we've still got new Star Trek on our screens. Beats the 40th.

This.

Paramount doesn't need to do anything for the 60th except produce content. If fans want to celebrate an anniversary that Paramount or fans had nothing to do with I encourage fans to create content.

 

[Firebird]

This.

Paramount doesn't need to do anything for the 60th except produce content. If fans want to celebrate an anniversary that Paramount or fans had nothing to do with I encourage fans to create content.

Guaranteed STLV next year will be a huge celebration, one which I need to finally go to.

 

[The Wormhole]

We'll also have more new onscreen content than we did for the 50th.

 

[Steve Roby]

Not to mention the 10th.

 

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[Uhura's Song]

I'm a lifelong Star Trek fan who was born in 1963, so I claim seniority.



Oh, hell, no. Fan worship of the Berman era is why Terry Matalas taking over Picard was a disaster. Season 1 was about taking the character somewhere new, season 2 was a mess, season 3 was Matalas pissing on everything good the show had tried to do earlier and sucking up to the people who only ever liked TNG. We don't all think TNG is the platonic ideal of all things Star Trek.



Yes, Galactica was Ron Moore saying, over and over and over, Berman never let me do THIS! An android that's 100% indistinguishable from humans gets a red glowing spine during orgasm! A lawyer needs to take a crap! A doctor smokes cigarettes in sickbay! People get obsessed with a Bob Dylan song! Take THAT, Berman! And the show was wildly exciting. For most of a season or so. Then it just crashed and burned in slow motion for another two or three years.



I remember watching that at the time. I thought it sounded like it could be great. I was wrong.

Star Trek's 30th anniversary was a big deal, and was treated as one, not because it was the 30th, but because Star Trek had never been more popular. For example, more Star Trek books, official and unofficial, were published in 1996 than any other year (over 80 books, as I recall). But not everything stays that popular forever.

And then Discovery brought Star Trek back, into a very different world. And it worked. We've had much more good, solid Star Trek in the last eight years than I could have expected in the days of Nemesis and Enterprise. And the world is changing again, with corporate mergers, streaming services having financial issues, etc. Will we get any big deal for the 60th? Maybe not. But we'll have at least two Star Trek TV series running. And that's not a bad thing at all.

Could not disagree more on PIC S3. It was fantastic. And if Rotten Tomatoes is any guide, 97% of people agree with me. And fan worshipping Berman era Trek has nothing to do with it, that is in your head, but certainly not mine, or likely anyone else's.

Every era of Trek has had studs & duds.

Pre-Berman TOS, TWoK, and TVH were fantastic. TMP & TSFS were good. TAS was not great.

In the Betman era, TNG & DS9 were fantastic. But VOY & ENT, while having good moments and even good seasons (S4 of both) were not top shelf, and hardly worship enducing. On the movie side, TUC and FC were fantastic. GEN & INS were OK-ish (I know I am in the minority on INS). TFF and NEM well below par.

In the NuTrek era, SNW has been great, as was PIC S3. LD & PRO were both very good, borderline great. S1 of PIC was good. DISCO had great moments and was OK in total, but certainly not great. Ditto ST outside of Calypso. S2 of PIC was a mess, but started & ended well. I thought Beyond was the best Kelvin film. ST09 was fine, STID and S31 were TFF/NEM level.

Other than a few internet warriors, I don't think hardly anyone views in in terms of eras. I certainly do not. Each show, episode, movie, and season are their own thing.

We obviously disagree, and you seem to dislike it reflexively anytime NuTrek honors older Trek. Regardless if it done well or not. Or so it seems to me.

I'd take Legacy in a heartbeat. It is out beyond Pic3 on the timeline, in undiscovered territory.

I'd take PRO3 in a heartbeat as well. Also in undiscovered territory.

Academy was not what I wanted, but it, too is in uncharted waters & I like Giamati and adore Holly Hunter. I certainly will give it a chance. Ditto the next movie.

 

[fireproof78]

Nu Trek can honor old Trek fine, and it has multiple times as evident by SNW design language.

Picard season 3 was just ok because the story was middling at best, repeated beats from Season 1 and poor use of the mystery box.