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Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

How would you rate Superman?

  • You'll believe a man can fly

    Votes: 26 28.9%
  • A

    Votes: 13 14.4%
  • A-

    Votes: 16 17.8%
  • B+

    Votes: 17 18.9%
  • B

    Votes: 8 8.9%
  • B-

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • C+

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • C

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • C-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • D-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • A pocket full of Kryptonite

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • Total voters
    90
I was thinking about Hawkgirl the other day, and then I realiaed suddenly, but we already have a Hawkman!!!! Then I wondered if that Carter Hall/Katar Holl was still in play after the reboot, even though Black Adam was Suicide Squad adjacent.
Yeah, but Hawkgirl renders him redundant.

Michelle started watching the old Timm Justice League cartoons the other day. She loves Hawkgirl. I can't wait for her to see the character in Superman tomorrow.
 
Yeah, but Hawkgirl renders him redundant.

Michelle started watching the old Timm Justice League cartoons the other day. She loves Hawkgirl. I can't wait for her to see the character in Superman tomorrow.

In the Timmiverse and the Arrow-verse, they portrayed Hawkman as a cocksure romance thug stalker, telling strong independent (Hawk) women that their feelings about not loving him are wrong, and then he pushes aggressively hard to change their minds.

In the Timmiverse she called him an asshole and shucked his infantile preconceptions about their intimate destiny.

In the Arrow-verse, she bent over for destiny (which is a quote from Wonderfalls) and accepted her new mate at face value.

That's a draw, so collectively we definitely need to play this through one more time to see if multiversally Hawkgirl is Donna Reed or Mary Richards.
 
I'm getting it on digital and will wait for the inevitable "Gods and Monsters" 4K set that comes out later. Yes I know it will be years from now. I can wait ;)
That animated movie where Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman were all different people? I kind of thought that one wasn't as good as it could've been.
 
Along the same lines:

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I had it preordered the minute Amazon put the listing up.


IMO I see Brainiac being the next villain for the Superman sequel. It seems like it would be in Gunn's wheel house

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Also I see a tasteless joke where Krypto urinating on Brainiac is his undoing because it's liquid vs electronics basically shorting him out.
 
They were also released without anyone knowing WHEN they'd be on streaming

The evidence? You know--that thing you've habitually avoided? In any case, this brings it all back to the why of your unsubstantiated claim about Barbie and Oppenheimer, which is (once again), you being asshurt over the fact two streaming era / post-Covid movies were phenomenal worldwide hits, not impacted by any of your nonexistent theatre boogeymen. The MCU has been suffering over a number of years with underperforming movies (one being a historic flop) under the same release conditions as the two films in question. You have yet to provide even a particle of evidence that Barbie and Oppenheimer performed so well due to the hollow, throw-it-at-the-wall-and-hope-it-sticks fantasies you continue to post.

Meanwhile, Feige's recent statements about the performance and perception of MCU films only bolsters the argument that the MCU's problems are not industry wide, but within, hence the incredible success of two non-Marvel films of the same era which commanded moviegoer interest / moved them to buy tickets at record levels. The MCU--at present--had failed to do that.
 
The evidence? You know--that thing you've habitually avoided? In any case, this brings it all back to the why of your unsubstantiated claim about Barbie and Oppenheimer, which is (once again), you being asshurt over the fact two streaming era / post-Covid movies were phenomenal worldwide hits, not impacted by any of your nonexistent theatre boogeymen. The MCU has been suffering over a number of years with underperforming movies (one being a historic flop) under the same release conditions as the two films in question. You have yet to provide even a particle of evidence that Barbie and Oppenheimer performed so well due to the hollow, throw-it-at-the-wall-and-hope-it-sticks fantasies you continue to post.

Meanwhile, Feige's recent statements about the performance and perception of MCU films only bolsters the argument that the MCU's problems are not industry wide, but within, hence the incredible success of two non-Marvel films of the same era which commanded moviegoer interest / moved them to buy tickets at record levels. The MCU--at present--had failed to do that.
My evidence is that no one knew which streaming services they'd be on, or when. They certainly knew neither movie would be on a commonly known service in a month or less.

Barbie and Oppenheimer succeeded for several reasons, and one of them was simply that folks weren't sure when they'd be able to see either at home or on streaming compared to other longer series where they did know.
 
My evidence is that no one knew which streaming services they'd be on, or when. They certainly knew neither movie would be on a commonly known service in a month or less.

Barbie and Oppenheimer succeeded for several reasons, and one of them was simply that folks weren't sure when they'd be able to see either at home or on streaming compared to other longer series where they did know.

A quick look online shows that Christopher Nolan delayed the release to Oppenheimer to VOD and streaming by several weeks in order to maximize its box office take and in order for more viewers to see it on the big screen/IMAX.
Greta Gerwig and Barbie followed suit. Delaying the release of Barbie to VOD/streaming in order to continue the Barbenheimer phenomena.
 
My evidence is that no one knew which streaming services they'd be on, or when. They certainly knew neither movie would be on a commonly known service in a month or less.

Again, yours is built on hollow, unsubstantiated claims about the desires of innumerable moviegoers, which you are incapable of knowing. What is known is that the near-universal praise / interest in Barbie and Oppenheimer was the only logical reason for the films' remarkable theatrical success. You can try to "level" the audience interest playing field (to aid the now-sagging MCU) with baseless claims as much as you like, but your underlying message created to protect the MCU of recent years is inapplicable to Barbie and Oppenheimer. Audiences who found many of the recent years MCU films lacking (or flat out awful) made that discovery in the theatres, hence the quickly sinking box office during their runs, which is verifiable..
 
Well, it's off the schedule of my local theater, so even though I'd be game to go once, maybe even twice more, my big screen viewings top out at four times. Unless there's any re-release, or special screening at some point. Or a double-feature for the release of Supergirl?! Fingers crossed.
 
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I would not object to Krypto peeing on Brainiac! 😂
Man of Steel, woman of Kleenex.

Liquid spent uranium, thrown at a target with a velocity challenging mach 5.

Pubescent Superboy cut the Kentfarm outhouse in half.

The only safe place to pee is in space.

However...

John Byrne, excellent comic book author, terrible human being, said that Kryptonians under a yellow sun are %100 efficient and do not produce waste.
 
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