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Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

How would you rate Superman?

  • You'll believe a man can fly

    Votes: 26 28.9%
  • A

    Votes: 13 14.4%
  • A-

    Votes: 16 17.8%
  • B+

    Votes: 17 18.9%
  • B

    Votes: 8 8.9%
  • B-

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • C+

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • C

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • C-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • D-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • A pocket full of Kryptonite

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • Total voters
    90
I was thinking about Hawkgirl the other day, and then I realiaed suddenly, but we already have a Hawkman!!!! Then I wondered if that Carter Hall/Katar Holl was still in play after the reboot, even though Black Adam was Suicide Squad adjacent.
Yeah, but Hawkgirl renders him redundant.

Michelle started watching the old Timm Justice League cartoons the other day. She loves Hawkgirl. I can't wait for her to see the character in Superman tomorrow.
 
What do you think of how the other metahumans were introduced (narratively)?

When I saw the trailer, I was worried they might have forced them into the mix to rush through another JL movie or something, but I was pleasantly surprised by how organically they fit into the story.
 
Yeah, but Hawkgirl renders him redundant.

Michelle started watching the old Timm Justice League cartoons the other day. She loves Hawkgirl. I can't wait for her to see the character in Superman tomorrow.

In the Timmiverse and the Arrow-verse, they portrayed Hawkman as a cocksure romance thug stalker, telling strong independent (Hawk) women that their feelings about not loving him are wrong, and then he pushes aggressively hard to change their minds.

In the Timmiverse she called him an asshole and shucked his infantile preconceptions about their intimate destiny.

In the Arrow-verse, she bent over for destiny (which is a quote from Wonderfalls) and accepted her new mate at face value.

That's a draw, so collectively we definitely need to play this through one more time to see if multiversally Hawkgirl is Donna Reed or Mary Richards.
 
I'm getting it on digital and will wait for the inevitable "Gods and Monsters" 4K set that comes out later. Yes I know it will be years from now. I can wait ;)
That animated movie where Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman were all different people? I kind of thought that one wasn't as good as it could've been.
 
Along the same lines:

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I had it preordered the minute Amazon put the listing up.


IMO I see Brainiac being the next villain for the Superman sequel. It seems like it would be in Gunn's wheel house

........

Also I see a tasteless joke where Krypto urinating on Brainiac is his undoing because it's liquid vs electronics basically shorting him out.
 
They were also released without anyone knowing WHEN they'd be on streaming

The evidence? You know--that thing you've habitually avoided? In any case, this brings it all back to the why of your unsubstantiated claim about Barbie and Oppenheimer, which is (once again), you being asshurt over the fact two streaming era / post-Covid movies were phenomenal worldwide hits, not impacted by any of your nonexistent theatre boogeymen. The MCU has been suffering over a number of years with underperforming movies (one being a historic flop) under the same release conditions as the two films in question. You have yet to provide even a particle of evidence that Barbie and Oppenheimer performed so well due to the hollow, throw-it-at-the-wall-and-hope-it-sticks fantasies you continue to post.

Meanwhile, Feige's recent statements about the performance and perception of MCU films only bolsters the argument that the MCU's problems are not industry wide, but within, hence the incredible success of two non-Marvel films of the same era which commanded moviegoer interest / moved them to buy tickets at record levels. The MCU--at present--had failed to do that.
 
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