Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

[Mudd]

Superman now reportedly flying into your homes on August 26h

SUPERMAN Reportedly Set To Take Flight On Digital On August 26

Though the date has yet to be made official, a reliable source is reporting that James Gunn's Superman is set to release on Digital on Tuesday, August 26...

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Kids are going back to school already. PVOD makes sense. We won't see SVOD for awhile longer.




Yeah...I hadn't considered the fact that for a lot of younger people, until a few years ago the Snyderman version was their main exposure to the Superman in mass media. Which goes a way toward explaining both the affection for Superman and Lois and the great WOM and consequently huge success of Gunn's film.

 

[Anwar]

Indeed. Oppenheimer and its extremely talented director brought audiences to theatres, not some unsubstantiated claim about not knowing when it was going to streaming.



Which does not support your:



Your post was an absolute about demographic interest. Your link does not support your unfounded stab, which at its core was defending the shaky MCU--your clear as day motive.



Once again, you are pulling much out of your ass, as you have not proven that was the reason for the massive success of Barbie or Oppenheimer. You are simply bitter because many recent era MCU films have underperformed or were historic flops at a time when nothing was keeping anyone from buying a movie ticket. Learn to accept the reality that the MCU has been on a downslide of late, hence Feige's Variety statement (and reference to his co-workers) about the perception of the MCU films, and his intent to try something different, because he knows there's much not working about the MCU right now.




As consistently demonstrated by a few i'll leave nameless. When someone at the very top like Feige (and associates) at Marvel Studios make public statements about the studio's troubles with content (i.e, the movies), only someone mainlining Marvel smack would be psychologically incapable of admitting to the MCU well currently running dry of a once successful formula.



As in the case of Barbie and Oppenheimer.



Indeed.




The internet was invented just for posts of this kind.

The lack of knowing when it would come to streaming helped, along with Barbieheimer and the extra marketing push it got from external sources.

And yes, whether you like it or not, people not knowing when a movie will be readily available for streaming does help along with word of mouth and marketing. You're comparing the MCU being in Year 17 to movies that had no smear campaigns running against them and were big Summer releases and were not seen as "Another entry to a huge series".

 

[DarrenTR1970]

Looking back, two things bug me about Man of Steel. The color palette and Pa Kent. Even with those two things, it is still an enjoyable experience.

I haven't liked the color palette of most 21st Century movies for a long time.
Everything just looks dull and washed out.
Give me those three strip technicolor movies any day.

 

[Anwar]

I haven't liked the color palette of most 21st Century movies for a long time.
Everything just looks dull and washed out.
Give me those three strip technicolor movies any day.

Behold, one of the most "2000s" movies ever:

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[The Realist]

Looking back, two things bug me about Man of Steel. The color palette and Pa Kent. Even with those two things, it is still an enjoyable experience.

For me, the breaking point (fittingly enough) is the neck snap.

Yeah...I hadn't considered the fact that for a lot of younger people, until a few years ago the Snyderman version was their main exposure to the Superman in mass media. Which goes a way toward explaining both the affection for Superman and Lois and the great WOM and consequently huge success of Gunn's film.

I like these thoughts (theirs and yours).

I haven't liked the color palette of most 21st Century movies for a long time.
Everything just looks dull and washed out.
Give me those three strip technicolor movies any day.

Agreed. I love how bright and colorful Gunn made Superman.

 

[BillJ]

For me, the breaking point (fittingly enough) is the neck snap.

They wrote themselves into a corner with no other real way out. I'm not as critical of the neck snap as some are, but it probably should've been handled a different way based on the character's history.

 

[Ovation]

Looking back, two things bug me about Man of Steel. The color palette and Pa Kent. Even with those two things, it is still an enjoyable experience.

Actually, and I know this makes me a minority even among Man of Steel fans, I like how the Kents are portrayed (ok, the tornado thing excepted—that was a dumb way to make the point the story was trying to present). I was intrigued by the idea that the Kents, still good people overall, were not the paragons of virtue that they have almost always been, so their advice and decisions were imperfect. I didn’t expect that approach and I found it interesting. I also liked Jor-El.

In Superman, we get the classic Kents, and they are quite well done. And Jor-El is, as presented, considerably less admirable than in Man of Steel. I expected this version of the Kents, but not of Jor-El. But I liked it. In each case, the Kents and Jor-El support the overall story being told. And crucially, in each film, Superman, regardless of the differences in upbringing/original background, chooses to place himself in mortal danger and help others because it is the right thing to do.

Of course each film has a different tone and tells a different story (one about a rookie who is unknown to the world at large, another who is established and considerably more experienced), and Superman hews far more closely to audience expectations of the character than Man of Steel. So I get the divergent responses among so many viewers. I’m just happy to have experienced both approaches, to add to all the other versions I’ve enjoyed (including Superman and Lois—yet another take that differs from the other two and is quite good—and of course the classics from my childhood portrayed by Reeves and Reeve).

In the end, I simply enjoy Superman stories, traditional and otherwise.

 

[The Realist]

They wrote themselves into a corner with no other real way out. I'm not as critical of the neck snap as some are, but it probably been handled a different way based on the character's history.

I’m going to pass on getting this debate revved up for the eleventy-millionth tedious time. Shouldn’t have even brought it up, but noting my reaction was relevant to a couple of recent comments. No need to go beyond that.

 

[BillJ]

I’m going to pass on getting this debate revved up for the eleventy-millionth tedious time.

This is the exact purpose the TrekBBS serves!

 

[Ovation]

For me, the breaking point (fittingly enough) is the neck snap.

Viewing it again last night, I saw it as reinforcing my overall impression of the “rookie” Superman. The current, more experienced version would likelier avoid the situation. But I understand the objection even if I don’t share it.

 

[The Realist]

Please God let this die here. Does one offhand sentence about that scene inevitably have to result in pages of repetitive relitigation? I fear we’re about to discover the answer is still yes, and apparently will be until the end of time.

 

[Ovation]

Please God let this die here. Does one offhand sentence about that scene inevitably have to result in pages of repetitive relitigation? I fear we’re about to discover the answer is still yes, and apparently will be until the end of time.

I assume you’re referring to me. It is decidedly NOT my intention to “re-litigate” anything (but that should have been clear enough from my other recent posts). But hey, whatever.

 

[The Realist]

I assume you’re referring to me. It is decidedly NOT my intention to “re-litigate” anything (but that should have been clear enough from my other recent posts). But hey, whatever.

No, man, I wasn’t directing that personally at you or anybody. You’re still one of my fave posters here. It was a general cry to the questionable mercy of the heavens.

 

[Mudd]

Looking back, two things bug me about Man of Steel. The color palette and Pa Kent. Even with those two things, it is still an enjoyable experience.

It's a good action movie of a certain kind. Nothing more ambitious than that, window dressing to the contrary.

They wrote themselves into a corner with no other real way out. I'm not as critical of the neck snap as some are, but it probably should've been handled a different way based on the character's history.

It's a single film. If you really write yourself into a corner, you back up and rewrite.

 

[Mudd]

 

[The Realist]

So … much … blue ….

Final version is infinitely better.

 

[Mudd]

I'm an anti-trunk guy from way back. I like the trunk-less design for Corenswet better. But it's a minor matter of taste.

At least this one is in Supe's proper colors.

 

[BillJ]

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I know it just comes down to personal taste, but that is awful. Even if you go trunkless, you need something more than a thin strip of yellow to break up all the blue.

 

[Mudd]

Probably why New 52 Supes went with a red belt.

 

[BillJ]

It's a single film. If you really write yourself into a corner, you back up and rewrite.

Unless the money people say otherwise.