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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

The movies and TV universe will not cross over. They were pretty clear about that. So any debate on whether they're a part of the same multiverse is purely academic.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if we do get some vague references to the movie in the Arrowverse (which I'm also including Supergirl in now), but I doubt we'll ever see characters from both onscreen together. What Sojourner quoted above is more of just a general reference to Batman and Superman, I was thinking something that is more clearly referencing specific events of the movies.
 
Maybe they could have crossed over with Legends of Tomorrow instead and have Supergirl mistake Ray Palmer for her cousin. That way without overtly showing Superman on the show everyone would know what Superman in the Supergirl universe looks like. Oh and you don't have to imply from that that Supergirl is set in the same universe as Superman Returns because of the precedent already set on The Flash of various people like Harrison Wells, Linda Park et al who have (near) duplicates on Earth 2.
 
You mean like maybe have Rip say something like "I've seen men of steel die and Dark knights fall?"

Yea, that could work.

That's a reference to the future of the "Flarrow"-verse itself, not to the films.

Batman and Superman might not exist on Earth-1 of the "Flarrow"-verse YET, but they will at some point, since Rip has witnessed their deaths.
 
I'm almost positive that I remember them making a reference to Batman and Superman before, just they had to be sneaky about it due to their imposed ban. I THINK it might have been the most recent crossover two-parter, but I'm not sure. My memory is getting a bit iffy as I get older.
 
Cisco made a "Flash signal" in an episode, he got the idea from "a comic book", he and Caitlin also did the "is it a bird, is it a plane" thing when Ray flew in back in season 1. But no direct mentions of either have ever been made.

Also, this last quote from Legends, Rory was clearly talking about Cybermen(steel men) and Sontarans(they wear dark armor), not Batman and Superman. ;)
 
Nah, that's not what I'm thinking of. It was something about their Metropolis and Gotham City, just not by name, and how they had their own guardians.
 
Neither Metropolis nor Gotham were ever directly referenced in either Flash or Arrow, and I'm pretty sure they weren't even hinted at.
 
That's a reference to the future of the "Flarrow"-verse itself, not to the films.

Batman and Superman might not exist on Earth-1 of the "Flarrow"-verse YET, but they will at some point, since Rip has witnessed their deaths.

We don't know that for sure -- you're just assuming it. It hasn't been established that Time Masters can't cross dimensions. And it's possible that he's talking about alternate events that were changed by time travel.

And are you ever going to accept that it's officially called the Arrowverse? We have confirmation from the producers that that's their own name for it (ironically in an article about how a Supergirl/Flash crossover would probably never happen), and that's what both Wikipedia and the Arrowverse Wiki call it, along with plenty of others. "Flarrow" is never going to catch on.
 
Because someone would get fired if they did, since they have been expressly told not to.

"I did but I didn't. I was clever."

"#### clever, you're fired."
 
Well considering they did a flagrant reference to both Superman and Batman in this last episode of Legends of Tomorrow, I think your theory there is way off. Considering no one's been fired and all.
 
They were just clever enough.

It's a tight rope.

Notice how the Kryptonite they advertised to put us into a frenzy turned out to be a fricking emerald.

"No one said that was kryptonite, you just made a wild assumption all by yourself."

Go #### yourself Greg.
 
The DEO stuff is the only thing that makes Supergirl a superhero show at this point. If it wasn't for them, she'd probably spend 30 minutes an episode as Kara being the verbally abused minion of a moronic CEO

...and that was an overused plot device as early as episode 2.

10 minutes in some love triangle and maybe 5 minutes stopping a random crime as Supergirl. One thing this show has done well is make me want a real Supergirl show. I hope we get one, someday.

You never know--unlike Marvel, DC TV has nothing to do with the new movie universe (and on a creative level, just from the DOJ trailer, the class difference is astounding), so at any time in the future, a Supergirl could be introduced in a DC movie.

Maybe when Green Arrow gets to be the star of his own show again, after Greg Berlanti is allowed to quit and go make the non-superhero Soap Opera he obviously wants to write, .

I'm guessing he would be more at home working on Grey's Anatomy.

I don't know why, but this crossover feels like a Plan B to me. If Supergirl gets cancelled, they will have established the Arrowverse as a place she could escape to and live on. As a precursor to the Crisis in Barry's future, Supergirl could turn out to be (or at least believe she is) the lone survivor of her universe. That then gives her a place to make guest appearances on Flash or even head up a season of Legends.

It would not matter, as the Arrowverse would move on with the crossover being some forgotten footnote, and honestly, if SG got the axe, that means the target audience thought so little of that version--of the series star, so there would be no reason to have her guest star on the other series.

If there's some kind of licensing conflict, they could probably have her adopt the name Power Girl.

That would be miscasting of the century. Better to call her any other name, but not Power Girl.
 
That's a reference to the future of the "Flarrow"-verse itself, not to the films.

If we're gonna be honest about it, it's a reference to the idea of Batman and Superman with nothing behind it.

There is no master plan form the writers on how Bats and Supes would fit into Arroverse, if they had one they would have structured Supergirl's (and therefore Superman's) backstory differently to make it fit.
 
Well considering they did a flagrant reference to both Superman and Batman in this last episode of Legends of Tomorrow, I think your theory there is way off. Considering no one's been fired and all.
Rip mentioned nicknames readers commonly associate with Superman and Batman. The heroes themselves were not named, and thus the nicknames can mean anything in the Arrowverse.
 
Rip mentioned nicknames readers commonly associate with Superman and Batman. The heroes themselves were not named, and thus the nicknames can mean anything in the Arrowverse.

Exactly. It's meant to suggest the possibility of Superman and Batman while still being ambiguous enough to avoid confirming their existence outright. That's how you tiptoe around restrictions.
 
Oh boy.

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Rip mentioned nicknames readers commonly associate with Superman and Batman. The heroes themselves were not named, and thus the nicknames can mean anything in the Arrowverse.
Did you even bother to read what I was replying to, or do you guys really have some mental block that prevents you from seeing more than one post at a time or something? That seems to be awfully common around these parts.

As an aside, those aren't "nicknames readers commonly associate" with them. They're actual alternative names for those specific heroes. They've even had comics and movies with those as their sole titles. The Dark Knight. Man of Steel. Maybe you've heard of them, yeah?
 
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