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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

Honestly, I wish we'd gotten Supergirl on Flash. Then, we'd get one of the only good things on Supergirl on an actually good show with a great supporting cast. Cisco and Supergirl interacting would probably make it worth it all by itself.
 
Yeah, even as someone who long since gave up on Supergirl, this is obviously the reason Lucy is taking over. Berlanti has a bizarre fixation with stretching horrible relationship drama far past the point of relevancy, I think he really wants to write a daytime soap opera but never got the opportunity, so he's using supergirl (and Arrow) to write the soap opera stories that his career has never let him do.

Though its only past the mid pint of its 1st season, the relationship drama has taken center stage too long. I know they do not want to "close the deal" on the Kara/James relationship so soon, but with characters like Lucy around, there will only be more sniping, bitching and emotionalism that only gets in the way of what should be main plots (and the James/Kara relationship is one of the main plots).

Could you at least wait to see the episode before making such judgements? Outside of a black suit you have zero idea what Lucy's role is now.
Unless you have additional information you have not shared yet.

Come on--after the adversarial relationship she's had with both sides of Kara, and the break up with James, what else would you expect if Lucy shows up at the DEO--professional behavior?
 
Not that it matters but I thought it had been mentioned she'd left the military.

It looks like she un-left. That is allowed, as long as you aren't dishonorably discharged, I suppose.


I wonder if, ratings-wise, it's more helpful to Supergirl to have Flash on, rather than vice-versa.

Budget-wise, Supergirl can afford Grant Gustin's salary better than The Flash can afford Melissa Benoist's. Also, the Flash has the established ability to cross universes while Supergirl does not, so it makes more sense this way. (Though if they had wanted to do it the other way, I suppose they could've had Kara cross over by accident, needing Barry and STAR Labs' experience with dimension-crossing to help her get back.)
 
Kevin Smith is directing an episode of Flash this week and he mentioned in his Fatman on Batman podcast that he's seen some of the Berlanti-verse future and Supergirl will be incorporating some "multiverse" stuff. (not just Barry's visit)
 
Though its only past the mid pint of its 1st season, the relationship drama has taken center stage too long. I know they do not want to "close the deal" on the Kara/James relationship so soon, but with characters like Lucy around, there will only be more sniping, bitching and emotionalism that only gets in the way of what should be main plots (and the James/Kara relationship is one of the main plots).

I've just come to accept that there's always going to be a lot of sappy relationship drama on these Berlanti shows. Clearly he feels it's a necessary thing to bring in more than just male comic book fans, and I'm sure it's also a handy way to create drama and fill out an episode without having expensive action or special effects of some kind.

Although personally I find the relationship stuff to be far more tolerable on Supergirl than on Arrow, probably because it seems to fit into the girlier and more lighthearted style of the show a lot better (where in Arrow it just feels like it's getting in the way much of the time).
 
In terms of relationship stuff, the more Alex/Kara stuff we get the better. Love the chemistry between Benoist and the girl that plays Alex. That, and Kara and Cat have been the two relationships I've loved on the series so far. I can take or leave the other relationship aspects.
 
Of course, she might not be taking over. The last time "Hank" was indisposed, Alex became the acting director. Maybe Alex will be promoted to director and Lucy will fill the vacancy that leaves in the lower ranks.
IIRC, there was also an attempt by General Lane to take control of the DEO. He may be sending Lucy to do that for him, now that he has the additional ammo of Hank being outed as an alien.
 
I've just come to accept that there's always going to be a lot of sappy relationship drama on these Berlanti shows. Clearly he feels it's a necessary thing to bring in more than just male comic book fans, and I'm sure it's also a handy way to create drama and fill out an episode without having expensive action or special effects of some kind.

Although personally I find the relationship stuff to be far more tolerable on Supergirl than on Arrow, probably because it seems to fit into the girlier and more lighthearted style of the show a lot better (where in Arrow it just feels like it's getting in the way much of the time).

Eh, I think you can have a good superhero show with little to no stupid relationship drama (like Agents of SHIELD). Plus, while The Flash has a bit of it, its generally much more restrained, and always remembers that its a superhero show first and foremost, something Arrow used to understand and supergirl has just never got. That said, Supergirl's relationship drama is less horrible then Arrow's, but Cat Grant makes up for it by adding a whole different type of horrible, which admittedly almost balanced out by the horribleness of Felicity on Arrow. They both have similar problems, and the more I think about it I really can't choose which is worth anymore. They're equally terrible, for similar reasons. But, at least Arrow used to be good, which puts it in the lead at two good seasons to supergirl's zero.
 
I kinda think that if Lucy were in charge, she'd be in either a business suit or a dress uniform, not the field gear (or whatever you call it) that she's wearing in those photos.
 
^Like Hank?

Honestly, I haven't really noticed what he wears or how similar it is to Lucy's garb in those photos. But I feel that if she's coming in from outside and just asserting her authority, she'd probably be wearing something more formal. (Unless the Flash episode is her second week in the DEO...?)

Looked again...she's definitely giving off an "in charge" vibe in those.

Which is subjective. Well, we'll know one way or the other in under two weeks.
 
Hank's outfit is pretty much the same as Alex's and every other DEO member we've seen - plain black utilitarian. They don't seem to go much for flashy or obviously pointing out who's in charge, and Lucy's outfit looks to be along the same lines there.
 
Hank's outfit is pretty much the same as Alex's and every other DEO member we've seen - plain black utilitarian. They don't seem to go much for flashy or obviously pointing out who's in charge, and Lucy's outfit looks to be along the same lines there.

Okay. Well, I guess it stood out more for me because of the body under it in this case...
 
I've just come to accept that there's always going to be a lot of sappy relationship drama on these Berlanti shows. Clearly he feels it's a necessary thing to bring in more than just male comic book fans, and I'm sure it's also a handy way to create drama and fill out an episode without having expensive action or special effects of some kind.

Some male comic fans can appreciate relationship drama--as long as its not like the neverending, "they have more problems and false starts than hope, but they can't leave each other alone" soap opera kind of relationship. In other words, one that really goes nowhere, other than to keep driving over the same emotional roadblocks week after week.

For any series to grow, the relationship between characters--growing--is necessary. It would be cause to skip over entire scenes if this season ends with more tension and/or unresolved drama or simply relationship misery.

That said, Supergirl's relationship drama is less horrible then Arrow's, but Cat Grant makes up for it by adding a whole different type of horrible, which admittedly almost balanced out by the horribleness of Felicity on Arrow. They both have similar problems, and the more I think about it I really can't choose which is worth anymore. They're equally terrible, for similar reasons. But, at least Arrow used to be good, which puts it in the lead at two good seasons to supergirl's zero.

The misguided selling of unsavory, abusive behavior as "strong" or something to look up to keeps Cat Grant on the series. She is the polar opposite of anyone with Supergirl's nature, yet Cat is hammered all over this series, and contrary to any reality--even a comic-based reality, no one challenges her for her daily abuses. That does not help the show.
 
Okay. Well, I guess it stood out more for me because of the body under it in this case...

Heh, that's fair! It's interesting because it's so different from, say, General Lane and his staff, at least in the Red Tornado episode. I'm not sure what it says about the DEO (or maybe just J'onn); is it a 'no-frills utilitarian' thing where they don't have time for fanciness? An operational security 'hard to identify the leader' thing? A subtle 'we're all somewhat on the same level' thing?
 
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I've never had any problems with the relationship drama on any of the Berlanti superhero shows, and I'm pretty happy with the ratio of superhero stuff to realationship stuff.
 
I'm not sure what it says about the DEO (or maybe just J'onn); is it a 'no-frills utilitarian' thing where they don't have time for fanciness? An operational security 'hard to identify the leader' thing? A subtle 'we're all somewhat on the same level' thing?
I'd say it's a "We're dressed to do our job / You don't have to dress up for anyone when nobody's supposed to know you exist" thing. They're operating in a secret underground facility, not an office building in DC.
 
I just watched the episode with the nuclear missile in it. I still continue to enjoy this series a lot more than I ever thought I would when I first heard about it.

Maybe I'm just vulnerable to "pretty blond cheerleaders" but I find Benoist almost irresistable in the role between the tougher demeanor she puts on as Supergirl and the "adorkable" persona of everyday Kara. I think the secondary cast still all does decently and even Winn is growing on me more and more since his sort-of creepy vibe with Kara dimmed.

I'm still not 100% on Flockhart's Cat Grant but I'm better than I was when the show started.

And come on, Martian Manhunter? Who would have thought we would have ever gotten a live-action version of him? On TV no-less.

TREK_GOD seems intent to,weekly, pick on the show for it s effects but for a weekly, network, TV series that has to do this level of effects in every episode I think they look TV-quality good.

I do think the "Superman issue" is something of a big one in episodes like this one where nuclear missiles are screaming towards a city. You'd think, cousin or not, Superman would have flown in to make sure things were being handled. I do think Supergirl's inability to fly-up to the missiles and open it up without a struggle was a bit odd and manufactured. I dunno, maybe her fight with Malware (or whatever) tired her out some?

I'm still with this show and, hell, think it's treating the notion of a DC universe better than the movies are. We've only seen Superman as a silhouetted figure and as texts and he feels more like Superman than the Superman in the movies.

And, come on, who couldn't help but grin when it's revealed the door to the FoS is opened with a golden key made out of a very dense material?
 
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