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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

Certainly looks more orange to me.

Lighting conditions can change apparent color, especially for something shiny, translucent, and textured like human hair. But I'd say her hair in that photo looks like a sort of coral pink, rather than the hot pink of the comics character.
 
I don't agree. In any case, Cat is portrayed in a far different manner than J. Jonah Jameson - and thank goodness for that.

Then you are not agreeing with a well known example from comics where an employer fires an underling.

But you say that like Supergirl's audience is only made up of these average persons instead of including a whole bunch of people who grew up watching cartoons like Challenge of the Superfriends and reading Superman comics and therefore knowing that Luthor and Braniac aren't Supes's only villains. If that were the case the show would have crapped out before episode thirteen.

I seriously doubt a substantial number of Supergirl's audience are those who were even alive back in 1978--or if they were, watched short-lived cartoons such as Challenge of the Superfriends. The only reason I can refer to it is due to being old enough / longtime comic fan who was aware of characters, history & adaptations as they were released. That's far from the average person, and again, I seriously doubt that's Supergirl's average audience member.
 
And yeah, women can be just as back-biting and power hungry and petty as anyone else.

...and in reality, they are, instead of what you'll hear from those Social Justice Warrior types who think crafting myths about female behavior is positive to any degree.
 
Here is really interesting photo I discovered on Instagram. Its David Harewood actually wearing the Martian Manhunter suit. He has performance dots on his face. https://www.instagram.com/p/BCLk0MvD7RP/

I was not expecting that. Most of us assumed the character was completely CGI. Good to know he is actually contributing to the performance of J'onn in his alien form.
 
Yeah I think in the initial reveal to Alex he was fully CG (where he also appeared a helluva lot taller than he is now), but then they switched to the real suit/CG combo.
 
Employers of either gender are capable of firing assholes and muppets who do their job poorly.

Kara's Job performance recently has been shit.
 
Then you are not agreeing with a well known example from comics where an employer fires an underling.



I seriously doubt a substantial number of Supergirl's audience are those who were even alive back in 1978--or if they were, watched short-lived cartoons such as Challenge of the Superfriends. The only reason I can refer to it is due to being old enough / longtime comic fan who was aware of characters, history & adaptations as they were released. That's far from the average person, and again, I seriously doubt that's Supergirl's average audience member.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure a significant number of them are comic book fans, or else why watch a series about a comic book character. And it's not like the villains originated in the old cartoons. They originated in the comics, and comic book fans would likely have significant knowledge of them. The idea that they're obscure just because nobody watched the Superfriends is fuzzy logic.
 
Just like the vast bulk of people who watched Abrams Trek movies are not Trek fans per se, the vast bulk of Supergirl viewers have never read a comic book.
 
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure a significant number of them are comic book fans, or else why watch a series about a comic book character. And it's not like the villains originated in the old cartoons. They originated in the comics, and comic book fans would likely have significant knowledge of them. The idea that they're obscure just because nobody watched the Superfriends is fuzzy logic.
Because the cast is nice and Melissa Benoist is great in the role. Or are you saying I should stop watching Supergirl or Flash because I don't read the comic book.
 
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure a significant number of them are comic book fans, or else why watch a series about a comic book character.

That makes no sense. The medium is not the message. Good characters are good characters. The whole reason they get adapted to other media in the first place is to expose them to people beyond their original audience. Mass-media adaptations of comics, whether on radio, film, or television, have almost always had much larger audiences than the comics themselves. That's why so much iconic Superman lore comes from adaptations -- the animated shorts provided his power of flight, and the radio series provided Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, kryptonite, and all the famous catchphrases like "Look, up in the sky" and "This looks like a job for Superman" and so on. It was the radio series that made Superman so huge in his day, beyond what the comics alone could achieve -- which is why the comics ended up borrowing so much from radio. And the same goes for later mass-media adaptations that have been far bigger than the comics they were based on and that the comics have borrowed from in turn, like Batman: The Animated Series and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The different media are not in competition, but in synergy.


And it's not like the villains originated in the old cartoons. They originated in the comics, and comic book fans would likely have significant knowledge of them. The idea that they're obscure just because nobody watched the Superfriends is fuzzy logic.

Maybe I've already pointed this out: A successful comic today has an audience in the tens of thousands. A successful TV show has an audience in the millions. That makes the comics audience no more than one percent of the TV audience. So even a character that's universally known among comics readers can be profoundly obscure to TV viewers.
 
and the radio series provided Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, kryptonite, and all the famous catchphrases like "Look, up in the sky" and "This looks like a job for Superman" and so on. It was the radio series that made Superman so huge in his day, beyond what the comics alone could achieve -- which is why the comics ended up borrowing so much from radio.

I'm counting that as two drinks!

But don't forget that Superman also had a syndicated newspaper strip at the same time as the radio series...that likely increased his exposure well beyond comic book readers as well.
 
But don't forget that Superman also had a syndicated newspaper strip at the same time as the radio series...that likely increased his exposure well beyond comic book readers as well.

Yup, that too, and that's where the Daily Planet came from. Clark and Lois originally worked for the Daily Star, but the comic strip was syndicated in some newspapers that had rivals of that name, so it was decided to change it to a name that wasn't in common use.

Many great characters have been multimedia characters. Sherlock Holmes was adapted to the stage and the movie screen while the original stories were still coming out, and our iconic image of Holmes's appearance and wardrobe is based heavily on William Gillette, the writer and star of that first stage play.
 
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure a significant number of them are comic book fans, or else why watch a series about a comic book character. And it's not like the villains originated in the old cartoons. They originated in the comics, and comic book fans would likely have significant knowledge of them. The idea that they're obscure just because nobody watched the Superfriends is fuzzy logic.

I'm a comic book/superhero fan (just not a long time Supergirl/Superman fan) and the vast majority of these villains have been completely new to me. I'd heard of Bizarro, and I recognize Maxwell Lord as basically a blatant ripoff of Lex Luthor (although at first, I thought they might actually be subverting the luthor trope in an interesting way by making Lord an actual good guy who just disagrees with the hero's methods) and of course Astra and Non have obvious similarities to Zod. Other than that? I don't know who the hell any of these villains are.

People watch shows for lots of reasons, very few of which have anything to do with existing familiarity with the characters. There are probably lots of people watching this show who have never watched or read anything about Supergirl before, and many of them may have never even watched or read Superman before either (though it's likely at this point that most people have seen a superman movie - but those only ever focus on Zod and Luthor). Such people would have even less familiarity with these characters than I do.
 
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure a significant number of them are comic book fans, or else why watch a series about a comic book character.

If that were the case Iron Man would have bombed on the box office and MCU would never have been a thing.
 
Marvel Movies can make a billion dollars in a week end.

Marvel Comic struggle to approach the black at the end of every financial year.

Reading is too difficult for the citizens who like Marvel movies.

It's even possible that a lot of the Marvel movie fans, because these are dumb movies for dumb people, don't know that comics are still being made or that comics ever existed.
 
Although it was originally just "truth and justice." The "American way" bit was added to the Superman radio series's narration during World War II, when ultra-patriotism was mandatory, and was then dropped once the war ended. It came back when the radio show moved to television at the start of the '50s, probably because the Cold War was making declarations of patriotism culturally mandatory again, and that solidified it from then on.

Few days old post, but I had not read the thread in a while.

I remember them poking fun at the slogan in Smallville. i didn't catch it during the original airing of the show because I wasn't as big of a comic fan back then, but the recent watch through made me smile.

I also don't remember Smallville being such a teen drama. must be selective memory.
 
They were 16 in season 1, at high school.

Season one ended with Clark finally deciding if he was going to take Lana or Chloe to the School Prom.

When Lois turned up in Season four, it turns out that she miscounted her credits, and was Kicked out of college back into Smallville high School with the gang... But yes, they eventually graduated and the high school sets were probably turned into the daily planet sets in season 5 or 6.
 
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I recognize Maxwell Lord as basically a blatant ripoff of Lex Luthor (although at first, I thought they might actually be subverting the luthor trope in an interesting way by making Lord an actual good guy who just disagrees with the hero's methods)

In the comics, Max Lord is rather different. He's just a businessman rather than a scientist/inventor; he was originally the guy who brought the Justice League International together and handled their PR. He eventually turned out to be a mind-controlling metahuman villain.

And some versions of Luthor have painted him as someone who could've been a good guy if not for his obsession with Superman, and/or as someone whose vendetta against Superman was motivated by a belief that aliens were a threat to human (and, more fundamentally, his own) autonomy and power.
 
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