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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1
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Anyone else think that spinning ball Non was holding is the Omegahedron from the Supergirl movie? Was too close to be a coincidence.
^ It was a nice nod.
As for the Fortress, it nice mix between the comics and the movie fortress.
Glad Alex finally got that off her chest.
I thought it looked great. I was going to comment on how good it looked.
As for the Fortress, it nice mix between the comics and the movie fortress.
Glad Alex finally got that off her chest.
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I been thinking about something for awhile. Do we consider Non on this show an alternate version of the huge mute character Jack O'Halloran played in the movies? Some will say "Of course they have the same name!" Obviously that is who they named the character Chris Vance is playing after. But they have nothing in common other than being Krypton criminals banished to the Phantom Zone. Certainly that is not the first time that the same character is radically changed in a new interpretation. But its fairly easy to think that Non was as common a name on Krypton as Tom, Dick or Harry is on Earth.
I knew I recognized that spinning-ball-in-the-palm image from somewhere! Given that Laura Vandervoort and the Fortress of Solitude were in this episode, I'd say the odds that it was a deliberate homage were high.
An okay episode, but Kara's resistance to working with the DEO felt a bit forced -- among other things, as an excuse to set up a visit to the Fortress. But I did like the way it resolved, with Alex finally breaking down and telling the truth and Kara forgiving her and Hank. I wasn't initially that impressed with Chyler Leigh's acting in this, but she's proven herself since then.
Laura Vandervoort, meanwhile, is still an extremely bland actress. Indigo is an interesting character -- I knew it couldn't be an accident that Kara's pod liberated Fort Rozz -- but I wish they'd cast a better actress rather than going for in-joke casting.
I like the way they handled the Fortress key. It sort of split the difference between the Silver Age key -- a giant key disguised as an air route marker of the sort that's no longer needed in the age of satellite navigation -- and the Grant Morrison All-Star Superman key -- a normal-looking key that Clark/Superman carried in his pocket but was made of dwarf star matter. I'm also glad that the Fortress wasn't as much a clone of the way-overused Donner design as it appeared at first glance. It was more in keeping with the comics version, with the mementos and the robot helper. I do wish they'd at least addressed the question of why Superman himself couldn't escort Kara to the Fortress.
It's interesting that we've now seen Legion flight rings in both Supergirl and The Flash. It seems it would've been redundant for The Flash to include two different nods to Supergirl in the same montage, so I wonder if maybe both shows have plans to deal with the Legion. And how would that work out in terms of the multiple timelines? Well, I suppose one or the other could just be meant as an Easter egg. Or maybe they haven't yet decided which show will feature the Legion, so they planted seeds in both.
It's the same ring in the same stand, which is part of the Fortress. Occam's razor...one flight ring to rule them all.
Including a glimpse of it on The Flash was a nod. But if they're going to go further with the Legion, it'll be on this show.
Including a glimpse of it on The Flash was a nod. But if they're going to go further with the Legion, it'll be on this show.
Hmm, you may be right. I'd thought it was on someone's hand in the Flash montage, but I checked, and in the online screencaps it does look like a stand.
OK, I usually don't bother watching most youtube clips, but damn, Jenny Agutter and Matt Smith? That was pretty damn funny.
I didn't notice a Legion Flight Ring, but I'll take everyone's word that it's there.
I've felt for a while that Mon-El -- in particular, the story of his arrival on Earth -- would work really well as a Supergirl story. His capsule crashes outside National City, Supergirl finds him the way Superman found her, she assumes that Mon-El is Kryptonian, they have a whirlwind romance, and then the whole lead thing happens. It would work.
I've felt for a while that Mon-El -- in particular, the story of his arrival on Earth -- would work really well as a Supergirl story. His capsule crashes outside National City, Supergirl finds him the way Superman found her, she assumes that Mon-El is Kryptonian, they have a whirlwind romance, and then the whole lead thing happens. It would work.
Except, given recent events, I think a story about an alien to whom lead is toxic wouldn't work very well -- either because it's in poor taste to remind people of Flint, Michigan or because the events in Flint are a reminder that lead is quite harmful to humans, never mind Daxamites.
Fair point. I hadn't even thought of that.
I really enjoyed this one.
Indigo was a cool villain, and she actually tied into the Kryptonian arc in an unexpected way. The Fort Rozz stuff was a nice extra twist to Kara and Fort Rozz's backstory.
Kara's refusing to work with the DEO was a nice excuse to get her to the Fortress of Solitude and to really focus on her relationship with James. I really liked this version of the Fortress, and I got a kick out of the robot helper. During the commercials and in the promo pics I thought it looked like Donner style crystal, but it actually looked like it was just formed out of the ice. I got a big kick out of the Legion ring.
I'm not quite sure what to make of Winn and Siobhan yet.
I was glad that Alex already admitted to Kara she killed Astra. I know I've said this a lot, but I am thrilled that Berlanti's shows don't drag out these kinds of stories forever. It drives me crazy when show drag out these kinds of stories about characters keeping secrets from each other forever.
Indigo was a cool villain, and she actually tied into the Kryptonian arc in an unexpected way. The Fort Rozz stuff was a nice extra twist to Kara and Fort Rozz's backstory.
Kara's refusing to work with the DEO was a nice excuse to get her to the Fortress of Solitude and to really focus on her relationship with James. I really liked this version of the Fortress, and I got a kick out of the robot helper. During the commercials and in the promo pics I thought it looked like Donner style crystal, but it actually looked like it was just formed out of the ice. I got a big kick out of the Legion ring.
I'm not quite sure what to make of Winn and Siobhan yet.
I was glad that Alex already admitted to Kara she killed Astra. I know I've said this a lot, but I am thrilled that Berlanti's shows don't drag out these kinds of stories forever. It drives me crazy when show drag out these kinds of stories about characters keeping secrets from each other forever.
So was Indigo a computer program or an AI being (android)? A computer virus doesn't just randomly take solid form, come out of a monitor, and choke someone.
To me, the highlight of this episode was Alex's confession to Kara. Some of us have been in her situation before wherein we've had to tell the truth even if it's too painful. She had to do it, not because it would make her feel better, but because Kara deserved to know and Hank had to be vindicated. Though Kara might have been angry, she still hugged Alex and forgave her. That was a tearful moment.
The other part I liked was when Lucy realized that James had feelings for Kara, but Lucy remained nonjudgmental. Great episode.
To me, the highlight of this episode was Alex's confession to Kara. Some of us have been in her situation before wherein we've had to tell the truth even if it's too painful. She had to do it, not because it would make her feel better, but because Kara deserved to know and Hank had to be vindicated. Though Kara might have been angry, she still hugged Alex and forgave her. That was a tearful moment.
The other part I liked was when Lucy realized that James had feelings for Kara, but Lucy remained nonjudgmental. Great episode.
Interesting that James' own secret proved to be his undoing.
Oh man, don't tell me they're going to make me rewatch that damn movie! At least Helen Slater is easy on the eyes, sigh.
.... reminded me of the Omegahedron from the Slater film, too ....
Agreed. As someone who never followed Kryptonian lore, this episode did absolutely nothing to make me even remotely interested in that character.
I don't see why that would be needed when the answer is obvious: she didn't ask him. Just like she doesn't ask him to do anything else to help her, either.
Overall I wasn't very enamored with this one. I agree the end (Kara and Alex and Hank) was the best part by far. The fact that Lucy didn't flip out in a jealous rage was also a nice touch. Other than that... I don't know if there really was more stupidity than normal in this one, or I was just in a less forgiving mood. A villain whose goal supposedly is extinction of the human race, and all she does is launch 1 nuclear missile against 1 city with an estimated 7 million casualties? And then waits to see if Supergirl can stop it before launching more? I mean, sure, everything's about National City, but an 'apocalypse' by definition has to be a little more widespread.
And the plan to stop her is a computer virus even though she's in building that has no internet access at all? (Yes, she very conveniently put herself back in the internet in time to take the hit, but that was still lame)
And my god, the lines... 'Predators cannot live with prey' - well, no I think you've got that precisely backwards.
I have a memory of an engery cable tied around Kara's rocket that was physically towing Fort Rozz out of the Phantom Zone.
Did I imagine that?
Did I imagine that?
I have to agree. indigo's been roaming the internet for 12 years and hasn't learned Skynet's plan well enough to duplicate it correctly?
I rewatched it myself not too long ago (my review is here), and I found that, much like Superman III, it's really not bad as long as you go in with the understanding that it's basically a full-on Silver Age comic book story with all the unapologetic silliness of that era. Its biggest problem is the dreadful and somewhat creepy "romance" subplot and the utter awfulness of Hart Bochner as the love interest character. Otherwise it has a great cast, a fantastic Jerry Goldsmith score, and impressive visual effects, and Slater's Kara is an impressive lead character in spite of the film's flaws.
But what I mean is that this is a situation where it would've made sense to bring Superman in. There's a world-threatening villain on the loose with Kryptonian ties, and the answers about her may lie in Superman's house. At the very least, if you plan to visit your cousin's residence, it's polite to ask them to escort you. Not to mention that Clark has been inviting Kara to the Fortress for years, so purely from a family standpoint, this would've been a big deal to him and he would've wanted to be there. I wish that, on this occasion, they had at least mentioned that he'd been contacted but had been unable to attend in person because, I dunno, giant robots were invading Metropolis and he couldn't get away.