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Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

There's good and bad professional work (just as there's good and bad fanfiction).

I write fanfics myself (see the Archive of Our Own link in my signature). I've read fanfics that are pretty awful (e.g., characters being paired up with each other just for the hell of it).

I don't see "professional" as inherently "better". The "pros" have cranked out their share of clunkers ("Threshold", "Sub Rosa", "Code of Honor", "Spock's Brain", "Phantasms", "Take Me Out to the Holosuite").

Blasphemy! Take Me Out to the Holosuite was hilarious and a welcome relief from the war drama. It doesn't belong with the other crappy eps.
 
Novelverse = Authorized fan fiction

I've read fanfiction. Except for MAYBE 3%, most of those 'writers' should be lucky enough to write at 10% of the level that the novelverse writers did/do.

So no. That is an insult to a group of dedicated people who wrote an intricate level of interwoven novels that had many Star Trek fans delighted and happy. No fanfic has ever done that.
 
Fan fiction deserves respect. Even if it's not good it's still someone expressing their love for their favorite shows and movies and wanting to be part of it on another level. What is interesting is karaoke and parody songs are the fan fiction equivalent for music.
 
Fan fiction deserves respect. Even if it's not good it's still someone expressing their love for their favorite shows and movies and wanting to be part of it on another level. What is interesting is karaoke and parody songs are the fan fiction equivalent for music.

ya it does

fan fiction is what keeps the many tv shows and movies going on and on after they end
 
Fan fiction deserves respect. Even if it's not good it's still someone expressing their love for their favorite shows and movies and wanting to be part of it on another level. What is interesting is karaoke and parody songs are the fan fiction equivalent for music.
And karaoke deserves respect?


Yeah, no. Fans can be appreciated for their passion, for their knowledge and detail oriented obsessiveness. But, does fiction deserve respect? No, anymore than karaoke does all by itself.
 
You are wrong. There are so many properties that are dead and forgotten and can only live on in the die hards carrying the torch and keeping that universe alive.

And let's be honest licensed fiction is treated just as apocryphal as amateur fiction anyway in many cases so neither has a truly greater standing.

If we're to be brutally honest a lot of licensed fiction can be just as uninspired as fan scribblings. It is quite common that the band stays together or reunites for little reason, popular pairings are kept together in unrealistically happy relationships, the spares are paired and there's so little stakes because there's no threat to the big names. Now this could just as easily be a mandate from the license holder and a writer has to do the best within the lines they are given.

The best licensed fiction in my opinion will always come from something that tells a story set apart from the big heroes. Maybe a bit player or two gets the spotlight alongside original characters having their own adventure in a different corner of the world. But licensed fiction that focuses on the famous faces is at the most risk of falling flat if it's designed to be a continuation. Inbetweenquels are better in that regard.
 
Just caught this clearer version of that pic of Pike and April wearing the Cage version uniforms:

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Pike's peak has an uncanny valley feel to it...
 
Pike's peak has an uncanny valley feel to it...
Looks like they did some de-aging

Adrian posted more pictures than just that one, there’s also one where it looks like he’s pinning the badge on Pike’s uniform, and one with him at the conference table, and the Sol system on the screen, Pike is in his gold tunic.
 
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I love that they made the TOS Pilot tunics to still be canon and they coexist with the DSC and SNW designs. Man, Starfleet burns through uniforms as fast as twitchy officers in the Quartermaster Corps can come up with them.
And the uniforms co-existing and even reverting. The 23rd century is quite a journey Cage tunics to SNW uniforms to Discovery uniforms/division coloured Discovery uniforms back to SNW uniforms back to Cage tunics to TOS uniforms to TMP uniforms to the maroon monsters.
 
And the uniforms co-existing and even reverting. The 23rd century is quite a journey Cage tunics to SNW uniforms to Discovery uniforms/division coloured Discovery uniforms back to SNW uniforms back to Cage tunics to TOS uniforms to TMP uniforms to the maroon monsters.
And less than twenty years before the Pike and April photo you have the U.S.S. Kelvin uniforms.
 
You are wrong. There are so many properties that are dead and forgotten and can only live on in the die hards carrying the torch and keeping that universe alive.

And let's be honest licensed fiction is treated just as apocryphal as amateur fiction anyway in many cases so neither has a truly greater standing.

If we're to be brutally honest a lot of licensed fiction can be just as uninspired as fan scribblings. It is quite common that the band stays together or reunites for little reason, popular pairings are kept together in unrealistically happy relationships, the spares are paired and there's so little stakes because there's no threat to the big names. Now this could just as easily be a mandate from the license holder and a writer has to do the best within the lines they are given.

The best licensed fiction in my opinion will always come from something that tells a story set apart from the big heroes. Maybe a bit player or two gets the spotlight alongside original characters having their own adventure in a different corner of the world. But licensed fiction that focuses on the famous faces is at the most risk of falling flat if it's designed to be a continuation. Inbetweenquels are better in that regard.
But those that carry the torch don't rely on fanfiction to keep it going. I can speak from experience there.
 
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