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Ngl not 100% on Spock's SNW look
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Probably not the first time.
The more I see - the more I REALLY like what is being shown of this show.
I haven't been this excited for new Star Trek since both Star Trek II and back when the said Star trek Discovery was going to be taking place in the 23rd century. <--- The BEST era of Star Trek.
I think that's what the series will be: standalone episodes. That's what they were saying from the beginning that this would be a more traditional type series with standalone episodes.
Excellent news. Gives them more opportunities to be creative.
That seems more of an aesthetic choice, originally. The undercut blocks easy access to or from the innerspaces, or vice versa, by requiring transfer to a higher deck first.
As seen with the new flatter saucer bottom, that space is now habitable, and more easily crossed in either direction.
But yeah, those curves... I get it.
One more time!
What is the crux of your opinion about why legacy characters diminish a show? Is it small universe syndrome?
It's partially small universe syndrome, but it's mostly just feels workman like, like we are hitting off the checkmarks to make sure it is "Trek Enough" to satisfy the requirements. It also creates a lot of expectations of how the characters are supposed to be rather than new characters who can be more accepted as is.
I hate you for this.
Ngl not 100% on Spock's SNW look
Yep. Spock joined a late '90s boy band.
7 Year Cycles.
7 Year Cycles.
I pretty much agree. Seems fanwankerish. But — Uhura, MBenga, Chapel, heck all aside from the Big 3.5 were almost ciphers and any developing of them isn’t going to trouble much. As far as Kirk later, yup that was catnip you knew they couldn’t ignore.
Right. It is one of those things that it seems minor at first, but little things become big. Starting with Pike, Spock and Number One should have been sufficient. It wasn't. They added more. And I think it was unnecessary and now feels more checkmark rather than organic.
I don't know. I'm all for - Pike, M'Benga, No. 1, even Chapel: They're essentially blank slates with familiar names.
I don't like Uhura & Kirk there. Even Spock is only acceptable because he was in "The cage". These characters are SUPER familiar - whatever these new actors do, they will miss major parts of the original acting that defined those characters and were important for different people.
Another Kahn is just... weird & feels a bit unnecessary.
Ortega, Hemmer - other new characters? Those are actually whom I'm MOST looking forward to! Those characters will be defined by this set of nice actors for the first time. Exciting!
I don't like Uhura & Kirk there. Even Spock is only acceptable because he was in "The cage". These characters are SUPER familiar - whatever these new actors do, they will miss major parts of the original acting that defined those characters and were important for different people.
Another Kahn is just... weird & feels a bit unnecessary.
Ortega, Hemmer - other new characters? Those are actually whom I'm MOST looking forward to! Those characters will be defined by this set of nice actors for the first time. Exciting!
You say that except...there are small data points that will be held against these actors just like the familiar characters. Regardless of how brief there comes an expectation of this character to be exactly the same. Pike has managed because Mount has charmed people and there is a measure forgiveness. But, that grace is very thin, at least for me.
I actually think Anson Mount doesn't do a good job channeling Pike. His Pike is very, very different - lots of swagger, very warm, charming, almost Kirk-like - compared to the original very cold, introspective, somewhat sad Jeffrey Hunter.
It's just easy to overlook for me because I'm absolutely seduced by Mounts charm and frankly prefer him as a leading character. But a big part is that I'm not very emotionally connected to Hunters original performance.
For Uhura that will be different and more difficult. I absolutely love Nichelle Nicols performance. Zoe Saldana is a fine actress, but I had already difficulties. This new actors also seems nice. But I absolutely don't see Uhura in her. I would 100% prefer keeping the same actress but just giving her a new name.
I don't even want to imagine my problems seeing another Kirk on this show... I just don't think that's a good idea.
"Batman" is a legacy character that can be interpreted by many different actors. "Kirk" is a character that was at least 50% pure Shatner, brought alive in the first place by this very specific actor and his mannerisms. Recasting him is bound to fail like recasting "Magnum" or "McGuyver" with new faces.
There is no good solution for any actor - either they stay too far away from the original. Or they veer too close to parody.
What Chris Pine & Zachary Quinto did was nothing short of a miracle - and STILL irked many.
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