Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[SJGardner]

Kinda reminds me of those insane "[thing] of the future" proposals from the fifties when they thought every single home and car will be powered by a miniature nuclear reactor in the far future of 2000.

 

[NCC-73515]

It's odd, but typical, that they use the TNG transporter sound XD

 

[dupersuper]

Is it even possible to enjoy a purely episodic show these days? Simple stories that wrap themselves up fully in 45-60 minutes... not really a concept considered "good" any more...

Other than some ongoing character B/C plots, stuff like the new Magnum PI seem to manage it just fine.

I don't watch those.

But millions do, so they must consider them good.

Looks like Pike is in a bad mental place in the beginning and has retreated to a lone house in the woods.

Possibly. He could also just be on vacation.

They're relatable.

It's sad how many people seem to relate so much to sad characters.

 

[fireproof78]

It's sad how many people seem to relate so much to sad characters.

Why? Sadness is a basic part of humanity. A core emotion, consistent across human civilization.

 

[UssGlenn]

Or dilithium-focussed antimatter reactors. I think everything, no matter the purpose, should be powered one way. With dilithium-focussed antimatter reactors.

So I know you are joking here, but it's a good jumping off point. It's never been shown on the show how they make antimatter, but I suspect it takes more energy to make antimatter than you get out of it. So it's a great energy dense fuel for Starships, but it can't be used for planetary power, it's a net loss.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Plus planets can't eject the warp core and fly away when there's a coolant leak.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

Plus planets can't eject the warp core and fly away when there's a coolant leak.

Great. Now I have to imagine a warp core yeeting itself into space in a cartoony way.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Re. insight on Pike's general state of mind - an excerpt of the script from "The Cage" - interaction between Pike and Dr. Philip Boyce (bold emphasis mine):

BOYCE [OC}: Boyce here.
PIKE: Drop by my cabin, Doctor. (Boyce enters with bag) What's that? I didn't say there's anything wrong with me.
BOYCE: I understand we picked up a distress signal.
PIKE: That's right. Unless we get anything more positive on it, it seems to me the condition of our own crew takes precedent. I'd like to log the ship's doctor's opinion, too.
BOYCE: Oh, I concur with yours, definitely.
PIKE: Good. I'm glad you do, because we're going to stop first at the Vega Colony and replace anybody who needs hospitalization and also. What the devil are you putting in there, ice?
BOYCE: Who wants a warm martini?
PIKE: What makes you think I need one?
BOYCE: Sometimes a man'll tell his bartender things he'll never tell his doctor. What's been on your mind, Chris, the fight on Rigel Seven?
PIKE: Shouldn't it be? My own yeoman and two others dead, seven injured.
BOYCE: Was there anything you personally could have done to prevent it?
PIKE: Oh, I should have smelled trouble when I saw the swords and the armor. Instead of that, I let myself get trapped in that deserted fortress and attacked by one of their warriors.
BOYCE: Chris, you set standards for yourself no one could meet. You treat everyone on board like a human being except yourself, and now you're tired and you
PIKE: You bet I'm tired. You bet. I'm tired of being responsible for two hundred and three lives. I'm tired of deciding which mission is too risky and which isn't, and who's going on the landing party and who doesn't, and who lives and who dies. Boy, I've had it, Phil.
BOYCE: To the point of finally taking my advice, a rest leave?
PIKE: To the point of considering resigning.
BOYCE: And do what?
PIKE: Well, for one thing, go home. Nice little town with fifty miles of parkland around it. Remember I told you I had two horses, and we used to take some food and ride out all day.
BOYCE: Ah, that sounds exciting. Ride out with a picnic lunch every day.
PIKE: I said that's one place I might go. I might go into business on Regulus or on the Orion colony.
BOYCE: You, an Orion trader, dealing in green animal women, slaves?
PIKE: The point is this isn't the only life available. There's a whole galaxy of things to choose from.
BOYCE: Not for you. A man either lives life as it happens to him, meets it head-on, and licks it, or he turns his back on it and starts to wither away.
PIKE: Now you're beginning to talk like a doctor, bartender.
BOYCE: Take your choice. We both get the same two kinds of customers. The living and the dying.
SPOCK [on monitor]: Mister Spock here. We're intercepting a follow-up message, sir. There are crash survivors on Talos.

Pike has been having issues for a LONG time - well established in the earliest parts of the canon. He also has the Sword of Damocles of his own impending injury-worse-than-death hovering over him. That would make the strongest people go a little funny in the head. The strongest come to terms with and accept it, but not everyone can.

 

[cooleddie74]

Pike's such a mess in the first TOS pilot that he considers a life away from Starfleet and dealing with Orion slave girls to be a healthy alternative.

 

[Amasov]

WTF. This series looks nothing like a 1960s soundstage with a painted backdrop of Mojave. They hate Star Trek. Won't watch.

 

[Jadeb]

WTF. This series looks nothing like a 1960s soundstage with a painted backdrop of Mojave. They hate Star Trek. Won't watch.

I’m one of the folks who wanted Disco to resemble the series it was a direct prequel to. So far, SNW resembles the series it is a direct prequel to. Good job, SNW.

 

[cooleddie74]

^
This x 10.

 

[shapeshifter]

Black Mirror

Yes! That is one I could not think of, thank you. Great show. I wonder what the news about it is...

https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/ne...lix-renewal-release-what-we-know-so-far-2022/

But millions do, so they must consider them good.

Since you asked so nicely I will tell you why. I don't have time.

I have full cable with Starz and Cinemax, access or subscriptions to Amazon Prime, AMC+, Disney+, HBOM, HULU, Netfilx, Paramount+ and Peacock+ and an additive internet connection.

I am behind on watching my favorites on everything, ergo, I don't have time.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I hope we hear Spock yelling more. "PREPARE TO PHOTOGRAPH!" Simply to provide contrast to the affable and mellow Pike.

 

[Noname Given]

Yeah in California people would be bitching about winter at 40 degrees so that’s why I gave specifics. It doesn’t mean the same for everyone

50 degrees, thanks (So. Cal. L.A. area native here) -- 40 is WAY too cold!

 

[Uhura's Song]

Well, SNW has it's own icon on Paramount+ now.

I would hope it could get an actual dedicated forum on here, yes?

 

[Tenacity]

Kirk and his log cabin in the Nexus
Picard and his Chateau
Riker and his log cabin on the healing planet
Pike and his lone house in the woods

On the other hand, Archer had that bar he liked to hang out in.

 

[Noname Given]

On the other hand, Archer had that bar he liked to hang out in.

What? You didn't see the log cabin and trees behind it in the establishing shot of the bar?

 

[Tuskin38]

I would hope it could get an actual dedicated forum on here, yes?

Not until a week or two before it airs. That's what they've done since Discovery started.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, SNW has it's own icon on Paramount+ now.

I would hope it could get an actual dedicated forum on here, yes?

Not yet.