Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[WarpFactorZ]

AMANDA (to Spock): When you were five years old and came home stiff-lipped, anguished, because the other boys tormented you saying that you weren't really Vulcan. I watched you, knowing that inside that the human part of you was crying and I cried, too...

I completely forgot about this dialogue (it's been ages since I watched J to B), but I now realize this is totally the motivation behind the scene in ST'09.

 

[dupersuper]

Oh and in addition to what you already posted about her, Beverly Crusher also lived through a disasterous plague on a colony where most died; and her grandmother taught her some of the medicine she knows:
(From TNG S1 - "Arsenal Of Freedom")
http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/121.htm

That just said her grandmother did.

 

[Noname Given]

That just said her grandmother did.

Um no:

PICARD: You were part of that colony. I didn't know that. But then there must be a lot of things about you that I don't know...

^^^
And that was in my original post you replied to. Since Crusher didn't correct Picard on that statement, she was there with her Grandmother at the time.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I completely forgot about this dialogue (it's been ages since I watched J to B), but I now realize this is totally the motivation behind the scene in ST'09.

Well, it was evidently the motivation for the scene in TAS "Yesteryear" of the Vulcan school children taunting young Spock, upon which the scene in ST'09 was based; "Yesteryear" and "Journey to Babel" were both written by D. C. Fontana.

 

[Jayson1]

Benedict Cumberbatch as British Augment John Harrison - one of Khan's European followers - would have been great and all by itself as a concept. You already have the Khan references in the film and could even have shown a CGI Ricardo Montalban the way he looked in "Space Seed(TOS)" inside a cryogenic container. Win-win.

I liked the movie and liked Cumberbatch in it but that idea sounds even better. Wish they had went that way.

 

[thribs]

Just saw the new poster. The Enterprise looks better but it isn’t THE Enterprise yet.

 

[1987SpaceGuy]

3 months and 1 day until SNW gets it's own sub forum (at most, hopefully)

 

[137th Gebirg]

Kind of wish the new sub would happen sooner than later to aggregate all the SNW-related traffic. It's a confirmed show, in post-production and nearly ready to go.

But, that path has been trodden before with prior new shows. It is what it is...

 

[fireproof78]

It's not like it's hard to track right now.

 

[Kzinti]

Just saw the new poster. The Enterprise looks better but it isn’t THE Enterprise yet.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Maybe he means that Pike will just drop the article when speaking:

"We need to beam back to Enterprise." et al.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Oh no, after rewatching Star Trek: Enterprise I'm ready for Star Trek to give the Enterprise its article back. I really prefer it when ships are called the Enterprise, the Defiant, the Voyager etc. Well okay maybe not that last one.

 

[Tuskin38]

Yeah, ‘The Voyager’ always sounded wrong to me. I don’t know why.

I think they’ve said ‘the Cerritos’ and ‘the Discovery’ in their shows.

 

[Mudd]

Just saw the new poster. The Enterprise looks better but it isn’t THE Enterprise yet.

It's not, but it'll have to do for now.

 

[cooleddie74]

It's close enough. And we honestly don't know what the creators have planned for her appearance the closer in distance we get to the time Kirk takes command. That's still a good six years away at bare minimum.

 

[Tuskin38]

It is the Enterprise, whether you like it or not.

 

[fireproof78]

It's close enough. And we honestly don't know what the creators have planned for her appearance the closer in distance we get to the time Kirk takes command. That's still a good six years away at bare minimum.

It's not possible...you know why...

 

[UssGlenn]

The redesign is a huge improvement over the Kelvin attempt. The swept pylons aren't my first choice, but I can live with it. My only real objection is that the bridge done superstucture is too sleek (and the clear bit looks odd).

 

[Mudd]

I actually prefer the Kelvin version because while it's derivative it does have some conceptual unity. It fits with the rest of the movie's design, which tries to evoke the 60s-modern look of TOS while scaling it up and pushing it a bit into the future.

The Discoprise, OTOH, remains a kludge, taking assorted elements from different versions of the Enterprise without integrating them successfully. The approach to adding detail is sloppy as hell. It looks very much like a fannish modeler's idea of "modernizing" the ship through kitbashing.

 

[BillJ]

It is the Enterprise, whether you like it or not.

It really isn't. It isn't the one created by Matt Jefferies back in the 1960's. It has nothing to do with that Enterprise, nor can it as none of the people involved were involved with the creation of the original.

Anymore than a current Mustang or Mustang SUV (apologies @Serveaux) has anything to do with the original, it is a name and basic design being carried forward in order to sell current wares and has nothing to do with the original or original creators.