Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Tuskin38]

Based on the rest of the room, I guess the corridor sets will also be white. Starting to remind me of ST09.

@Hoity Toity have you seen anyone in costume? Have you noticed if the uniforms changed any?

 

[Tuskin38]

I am sure fucking confused. I have issue with the colors. I was defending the green.

Whoops I thought he was quoting Fireproof again

 

[Tuskin38]

Because he mentioned it over and over.

And? They're allowed.

 

[Mudd]

Great. Go watch enterprise. You know the show that was supposed to look like real "functional" NASA in the future but just ended up looking really boring.

Actually, I thought they did a great job on the set and interface design on ENT. Much prefer it to the post-TNG era shows like Voyager or DS9; the aesthetic needed a rethink at that point. The engine room with the horizontal core, the suggestion of exposed structural supports in the corridors, the use of many animated flatscreen computer displays rather than a few large backlit cels (with occasional video inserts) and the complex and tactile control panels were a great change from the 24th century.

Okay, so the bulkheads were all gunmetal grey. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just not the only way to look "functional."

 

[fireproof78]

Intriguing. Perhaps you might be interested in studies on color psychology and the calming effects of the color green, at least on humans. Perhaps there is a method to their madness.

Remember that TOS' season 3 painted the walls in the transporter room purple, as opposed to their usual practice of lighting gray-painted neutral walls with colored gels. Is purple more functional than green, or even gray, I wonder? Perhaps less aquatic, yes, but I have seen many aquariums with purple-magenta tank stones. So many incongruent rabbit holes to go down with this one...

Hmmm...perhaps I have already read those studies given I studied psychology for many years as well as personal side projects. Beige is supposedly soothing too. My office is beige. I rather don't like the color, I do not find it soothing. I find it irritating.

I have no doubt there is a method to their madness. No doubt my responses seem to lack a method. For the record I do not find that particular green soothing, and even if I did, I would not be putting soothing on my list for designing starship interiors involving transporting to the surface. Perhaps in Sickbay or personal quarters or the arboretum.

Based on the rest of the room, I guess the corridor sets will also be white.

White would be nice.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Thank you for posting these photos, @Hoity Toity - please don't get in trouble over it. These productions can get quite Type-A+ over security for such things.

 

[fireproof78]

Because he mentioned it over and over.

Because I had about 12 people dogpile me over my opinion. Just so we are clear.

 

[Mudd]

Hmmm...perhaps I have already read those studies...

...and perhaps not.

 

[Tuskin38]

I thought the engine room on enterprise was the worst set ever. It was dull, looked like a water heater, claustrophobic, had an elevator that went 6 feet up and the 3 steps that tucker had to climb up that ladder anytime he wanted to push a button was awkward to watch.

Well it was an experimental starship, that was the point. It's rough, not refined. The tech isn't quite right yet.

 

[137th Gebirg]

One of life's great mysteries SOLVED!

 

[fireproof78]

Ah, so we will see the Enterprise escalator set next.

 

[Mudd]

They were flat panel displays because that's when LED screens became available. Before that it was CRT or projectors. you can bet the older shows would have used flat panels if they could have.

Oh, I know.

One of the art department designers, when the LCARS designs were praised by a fan for being more futuristic than the old TOS controls, very modestly said that the reason they were on the Enterprise D instead of a lot of switches and blinking lights was because they saved the production money and that "if switches and lights were cheaper, the Enterprise would be full of switches and lights."

 

[Tuskin38]

I hope you don't get found out

If someone from CBS/Viacom gets wind of this, they'd probably send a C&D to the admins to delete the posts.

 

[137th Gebirg]

They wanted to experiment with peoples sanity and efficiency by making them climb needless ladders all day?

I do kind-of get it with Enterprise. It was, as Tuskin38 said, an experimental vessel. Not much space for open-space amenities, wide corridors and luxury-suite 5-star quality hotel cabins. They wanted an element of submarine-like claustrophobia in the sets for this reason, being an early-era Earth ship, just starting out in the galaxy. Unfortunately, it didn't play quite as well on-screen and came off as somewhat uninteresting. Regardless, I much prefer that level of speculative functionality than the funhouse turbolift hub of DSC. I like that show, but Jesus those scenes were patently absurd. The new sets for SNW look like a good compromise between getting mired in Bermanland visuals vs Disco freneticism. And yeah, very Abramsesque. If the corridors do wind up being a neutral gray-white, I hope they use TOS-style colored lighting - maybe not quite as over-saturated as the '60s groovy technicolor yawn, though...

 

[fireproof78]

I hope you don't get found out

If someone from CBS/Viacom gets wind of this, they'd probably send a C&D to the admins to delete the posts.

Yeah, I'm waiting on this one.

 

[fireproof78]

Unfortunately, it didn't play quite as well on-screen and came off as somewhat uninteresting.

Mileage will vary. The interiors of the NX-01 were my favorite parts of Enterprise because it felt like a direct descendant of current technology. It felt real, and possible and tangible in a positive way. I don't have to understand all of why things look a certain way but I at least want a sense that the look serves a purpose. "Because it looks cool" is a purpose I have never found particularly persuasive.

 

[Mudd]

So, to summarize:



No one has to like anything. People have different visual tastes and preferences.

"I like blue better than green" is not a thing to be argued with; it's personal taste. Under most circumstances, I too like blue better than green.

I wouldn't like this set any less if it had those blue rectangles behind the pads, or if the odd-looking walls were blue rather than green - although I really am a little tired of blue light in skiffy design, especially on Trek; it's like someone back in the early 80s just decreed "in the future, everything with power will have a blue glow around it." Carpet cleaners, face razors, warp drives, all the same blue glow...

But making up rational-sounding reasons to try to objectivize personal preferences - "This looks functional and that doesn't" - within a fantasy environment like Trek is just pretty damned silly.

 

[fireproof78]

So, to summarize:

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No one has to like anything. People have different visual tastes and preferences.

"I like blue better than green" is not a thing to be argued with; it's personal taste. Under most circumstances, I too like blue better than green.

But making up rational-sounding reasons to try to objectivize personal preferences - "This looks functional and that doesn't" - within a fantasy environment like Trek is just pretty damned silly.

I said I didn't like the green and got shellacked for the trouble so I provided my personal view on the matter as well as accused of lying. I am not trying to objectify anything-it's my point of view and I'll stand by it. It's a matter of verisimilitude and whether this item appears to function as described in the show. As it stands, in the pictures, it does not.

That's my opinion. My own silly opinion.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Looks fantastic!

I can already feel myself getting over hyped and know I'm just setting myself for huge disappointment.

 

[Mudd]

It's a matter of verisimilitude and whether this item appears to function as described in the show.

"Function as described in the show."

So, glowing blue rectangles lend verisimilitude to the process of breaking down matter at the subatomic level and reassembling it at a distance, whereas glowing green walls do not.

Interesting.