Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread
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There's no reason to explain it at all. Very few people are going to notice.
Probably because most of them were background actors.
And will you admit you were wrong when they don't? Probably not, you never do.
They will not. Because there is not a single reason to.
And this is why I think most of them will continue with Strange New Worlds. Nicole Dickinson is on Discovery as a new character every other episode. Samora Smallwood, Hanneke Talbot, Amrit Kaur, these are all local actresses that could easily continue their co-starring positions in much the same way as Emily Coutts and Oyin Oladejo and Sara Mitich. They're not going to be main characters, like presumably these five will be, but they will probably be recurring regulars, like many on the Discovery cast.
People are arguing hypotheticals that will probably never come to pass.
The science officer in SSS was part of the production crew and not an actor, IIRC.
Right.
nothing in your post, or the post you responded to, says if the two of you were referring to disco or the cage.
When I said:
...that was a hint that I was referring to Laurel Goodwin.
I get it. You didn't read the full comment. You don't have to make up some stuff about me being oblique or confusing. Because I was, until the second paragraph that you chose not to read or understand (Goodwin is the actress from The Cage, Dickinson is the actress from Such Sweet Sorrow). The gag doesn't work in chunks. It only works as a whole.
Skywalker, who I replied to, was referencing Dickinson. I turned the tables by making it look like I was agreeing with him, before the punchline clearly shows I was referring to Goodwin all along.
It was just an interesting fact I was presenting in a unique way, and it's kinda fun to see who stopped reading after the first paragraph to interject with their own wisdom.
And yes, the science officer was played by Ante Dekovic, the visual effects supervisor. However, he was clearly a relief science officer, and I expect the science officer in the main series will be played by Ethan Peck. I'm not sure if you read this far, but I thought I'd bring it up.
1. you don't
2. I did
3. I didn't
4. neither
can you really not guess that the minor and background actors' names from single episodes are not familiar to everyone? obviously you can't. but hey, sometimes we choose our own limitations. XD
There are several reasons to explain in narrative why the bridge crew is different:
1) As previously noted, the people behind current Star Trek care about narrative consistency and continuity
2) Modern audiences expect narrative consistency and continuity
3) SNW is most likely going to piggyback off of already-established current Pike Enterprise lore as established by DSC, at least indirectly
This is why they probably won't change the bridge crew. There's zero evidence that they have done so, thus far.
Even if these new actors are playing bridge officers, that still doesn't mean the characters from SSS won't appear. Already, Lt. Amin, the navigator in SSS was seen as an engineer in the Q&A Short Trek, so there's one possibility. Hell, for that matter, why are you even assuming the SSS characters were senior officers? Maybe for one time Star Trek decided to be realistic and not have the bridge staffed exclusively by the senior staff.
We simply don't know anything yet, And since you're the one always getting bent out of shape with the rest of us telling us to stop speculating and wait for the official word, why are you now the one speculating instead of waiting for the official word?
Even if we entertain for a moment that what you say is true and no one from SSS are returning and are being replaced by all these actors, why would tat need to be explained? Nemesis didn't explain what happened to the bridge officers from Insurrection (one of whom was also in First Contact) and I don't think anyone was bothered by that.
Okay, I see you're playing the "modern day audiences care about this sort of thing" card, so I will now move onto a matter from Disco season 3.
For the last three episodes of season 3, Lt. Nilsson completely disappeared with no explanation and was replaced with the completely new Lt. Ina, also with no explanation.
^^^ I honestly didn’t even notice that (the thing in the spoiler block above).
I guess that’s how I (and I suspect millions of others who watched all the shows in the franchise over the years) cope with such inconsistencies. If it’s not contingent to the plot, not many people will either notice or care.
It can sometimes be fun discussing weird little things like that but I have no intention of getting on a soapbox and haranguing about it. People will get repulsed by that quicker than, say, a white-bread Englishman chosen to play a megalomaniacal Siekh.
I guess that’s how I (and I suspect millions of others who watched all the shows in the franchise over the years) cope with such inconsistencies. If it’s not contingent to the plot, not many people will either notice or care.
It can sometimes be fun discussing weird little things like that but I have no intention of getting on a soapbox and haranguing about it. People will get repulsed by that quicker than, say, a white-bread Englishman chosen to play a megalomaniacal Siekh.
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I'm pretty sure TOS came up with the premise of a "five-year mission" in deep space to explain the lack of crew rotation for senior officers, since the norm in the military would be for people to routinely rotate out and not stay on the ship for longer than a year or two.
Of course, when they came to TNG, they didn't even bother coming up with a cover story.
I got pushback on Reddit (lol) when I suggested how we could eventually see the crew of Kirk's Enterprise come together in a way that's not too dissimilar from what we saw in the Kelvin timeline. Why couldn't Scotty or McCoy join Pike's Enterprise eventually, albeit, in lower-ranking positions? We think we know a ton about the TOS characters, but there's an almost equal amount about them we don't know about; they've just always been there. Spock is truly the only character we've now seen arrive on the Enterprise for the first time.
Strange New Worlds shouldn't be a series about setting up the origins of the TOS characters, but, if there's an opportunity to do something like that and it makes sense to do so, then I'm up for it.
I AM disappointed Lt. Amin wasn't part of that cast, I will say. I'm sure there's every chance we could see her again, but, I had hoped that if a Pike series ever came to fruition, she would've been included.
Not everyone knows every actor
They never explained (in the show) why all the Klingons were bald and then why they grew their hair back.
Sure we got a couple notes from an actor and the makeup artist, but those never made it into the episode.
Michael just makes an observation that they’re growing their hair back, but no explanation is given why by any of the characters.
I suspect by the end of SNW, it'll be the ST'09 set up of Pike commanding the TOS crew with Kirk as his Number One.
That is how they should introduce Scotty. A lower rank engineer who Pike soon finds out knows the ship better than the chief engineer. Sulu shows up still in life sciences I think it was. Jason
"Point of Light" at the 18:37-mark.
Burnham: "I heard, post-war, the Klingons are growing their hair again."
Tyler: "The rumors are true."
We not only live in the age of Google; we live in an age where it's so taken for granted that people don't bother using it.
