Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[fireproof78]

If people bitching about a show I like made me stop I would have bailed during Enterprise.

We all have our limits.

 

[BillJ]

Then maybe saying calm down might not be the best response...?

You're flying out the handle, figuratively, over something that is a year in the future and may play well. None of us know. It just doesn't seem healthy to react that way to entertainment.

 

[The Old Mixer]

As far as I'm concerned, anyone billed as a guest star or special guest star is in no way a regular.

Historically, special guest star billing has sometimes been used to give prominent billing to an actor who was very much a series regular. See Jonathan Harris in Lost in Space, and Martin Landau in the first season of Mission: Impossible.

 

[fireproof78]

You're flying out the handle, figuratively, over something that is a year in the future and may play well. None of us know. It just doesn't seem healthy to react that way to entertainment.

Maybe it's not. It's where I'm at.

 

[Mudd]

Historically, special guest star billing has sometimes been used to give prominent billing to an actor who was very much a series regular. See Jonathan Harris in Lost in Space, and Martin Landau in the first season of Mission: Impossible.

The actual question is, how is the actor being paid - per appearance or for a season. SMG's paid for every episode of STD aired. Was Yeoh paid to do more than six or seven episodes in the first year? Was she guaranteed the appearances?

 

[ThankQ]

Up on blocks in the front yard waiting for parts.

They make car covers that size?

Nope. Open to the elements. Gonna need a new paint job too,

[Tom Paris] They could probably use one of those ancient American flags that were used as stage backdrops for what people used to call a "country music concert." Those were pretty big.[/Tom Paris].

 

[The Wormhole]

The actual question is, how is the actor being paid - per appearance or for a season. SMG's paid for every episode of STD aired. Was Yeoh paid to do more than six or seven episodes in the first year? Was she guaranteed the appearances?

IIRC, when Yeoh's casting was first announced, the report identified her as a "recurring character." Which, at least in modern television is distinct from being a regular. The only thing unique about her status is that though billed as a Special Guest Star in all her appearances, she was listed in the opening credits, making her the only "guest star" on Disco to have been.

 

[Commander Troi]

Sorry, but I think I just teared up a little when the TOS theme played at the end.

I know I did.

The weird thing about this IMHO is he's a relatively big name that you don't just pick for a guest star role...yet his age kinda boxes him out of a lot of things, presuming Mount actually wants to have a decent run on Strange New Worlds.

I mean, there are basically two options.

1. He is meant to play Kirk at this time, meaning he's playing a character who is 15 years younger than he is. Sure he's a well-preserved 39, but if Mount stays on as Pike for 5 years or more, he's going to start being visibly middle aged.
2. Another possibility is that he's playing a "future Kirk" who has time-skipped back for some reason. This is intriguing, but it offers additional complications unless they want to just use him as a one-off, as there are a ton of SNW cast members who should also be on Kirk's Enterprise, and would thus have to be aged up a bit for the next spin off series.

Since Kirk seems to be in a scene with Ms. Noonien-Singh, option 3 is that he's in one or more flashbacks about her.

Surely memberberries in Trek should be calling roddenberries.

OH MY GOD! How has this never come up before? PERFECT!

Took a look at Anson Mount's and Paul Wesley's Twitter feeds and found these:

Anson's a kick. Paul's was so sweet! It's nice that he's a fan.

 

[GNDN18]

How the hell can you claim someone who had "Special Guest Star" above their name was a regular and not a guest star?

Go ask Guy Williams.

 

[NCC-73515]

What pedigree? "The Vampire Diaries", "Smallville" and a few YA films most of which I barely have heard of?

One of my female friends back in 2009 when she saw ads for STXI: It's the guy from Princess Diaries 2!!!

 

[DigificWriter]

^ If you say so.

Ok, honest question that I mean sincerely, how do they use Kirk in a way that a) doesn't suck and b) doesn't overshadow Pike?

By not using him at all.

However, that ship has sadly sailed now.

Pike was one of the best things about DSC Season 2 and I would have been more than willing to go on an episodic journey with him, Number One, and Spock with SNW had the people behind the series not started spiraling down the rabbit hole of making the show nothing more than TOS 2.0 with the unnecessary inclusion of Uhura, M'Benga, a Kahn, and now Kirk.

 

[fireproof78]

Pike was one of the best things about DSC Season 2 and I would have been more than willing to go on an episodic journey with him, Number One, and Spock with SNW had the people behind the series not started spiraling down the rabbit hole of making the show nothing more than TOS 2.0 with the unnecessary inclusion of Uhura, M'Benga, a Kahn, and now Kirk.

I fear you're right.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I fear you're right.

I see no evidence that the inclusion of those characters will be a bad thing any more than the inclusion of Sarek, Amanda, Spock and Pike were a bad thing for DISCO.

 

[Mudd]

^ If you say so.


By not using him at all.

Wrong.

Please stop pretending that you know what they're going to do with this show. You have no idea, none at all.

 

[fireproof78]

I see no evidence that the inclusion of those characters will be a bad thing any more than the inclusion of Sarek, Amanda, Spock and Pike were a bad thing for DISCO.

I do.

Them's the breaks.

 

[cooleddie74]

It's all in how you use a legacy character. Darth Vader keeps finding a way into new Disney series and films but there are precious few instances in which his inclusion has been negative and hamfisted.

 

[fireproof78]

It's all in how you use a legacy character. Darth Vader keeps finding a way into new Disney series and films but there are precious few instances in which his inclusion has been negative and hamfisted.

Rogue One was absolutely awful, and nearly defines hamfisted, if not quite fully negative.

 

[ThankQ]

I see no evidence that the inclusion of those characters will be a bad thing any more than the inclusion of Sarek, Amanda, Spock and Pike were a bad thing for DISCO.

I hear that Worf had a few guest appearances in DS9.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Pike was one of the best things about DSC Season 2 and I would have been more than willing to go on an episodic journey with him, Number One, and Spock with SNW had the people behind the series not started spiraling down the rabbit hole of making the show nothing more than TOS 2.0 with the unnecessary inclusion of Uhura, M'Benga, a Kahn, and now Kirk.

M'Benga was in the same amount of TOS episodes as Pike and Number One.

 

[Lord Garth]

Oh my God. I can't stay quiet about this anymore.

I do.

Them's the breaks.

Is this meant to be reverse psychology? It's the only thing that makes sense right now.

I'm neutral on SNW because I've said from Day One, I'm not too keen on going back to episodic "planet of the week" stories and nine times out of 10, I'm usually not a fan of prequels.

But you? "Oh my God! They have Kirk!!!!" and now you're turning on the show just like that and going apeshit over it? And, yes, you are going apeshit over it. Is this really the molehill you want to die on?