Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x02 - "Children of The Comet"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Serveaux, May 6, 2022.

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  1. 10 - Excellent

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  2. 9

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  4. 7

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  1. Verteron

    Verteron Lux in tenebris lucet Premium Member

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    I immediately stopped the episode when they showed the suits to go look up photos of these. Sure, they're not totally faithful, but they are a respectful update, and that's all I want. I don't need Big E to look like it did in 1966. But I also don't need them carelessly redesigning everything 'just because'. This felt like the right balance. A lot of the sets and props have so far!
     
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  2. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

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    Okay, I'm going to give that one a 9 a well. This just feels a lot more at "home" for Star Trek for me. It's working. There's some elements that are kinks in my neck (Pike's quarters size and what's going on outside his windows during the party scenes?) but all Trek gives me that.

    This is clicking so far. I like all of the characters, the episodic stories with the character arcs. More of this, please.
     
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  3. cooleddie74

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    So many of the shapes and lines of the TOS space/environmental suits have been copied or given a nod in the SNW spacesuits. ENT also did their own take on what from that series' point of view was a suit design well over 100 years in the future, with the wires and cables on the suits being given analogies on the underlying body glove to the NX-01 spacesuits.
     
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  4. TheMadCloner

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    I like Disco and Picard for various reasons, but I feel like SNW has the highest potential. The cast is brilliant, the characters are well written, and so far the stories are great.

    Hope it can maintain its quality throughout the season. That’s been the biggest challenge for nuTrek so far.
     
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  5. indianatrekker26

    indianatrekker26 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I just finished this episode. This show just continues to knock it out of the park for me as a trekkie. I really feel like trek is finally back.
     
  6. Verteron

    Verteron Lux in tenebris lucet Premium Member

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    The Connie's saucer has two full decks which would be around 13,000 sq metres of floor space each based on the saucer's diameter. Even if only those two decks are quarters and the other smaller decks are common areas, labs, storage and plant (plus the entire engineering hull) that still allows over 60 sq metres per crewperson in a 400 person crew which the size of a large 1 bedroom European apartment. Doesn't seem too unrealistic that the Captain has 2x or 3x the base allocation, given many of the lower decks are doubled up and there are couples on the ship who'd want to share.

    My personal theory is that they only make crew share quarters on starships to coax crews into working out how to get on with each other, and push them in to socialising in the common areas more often. None of the ships are really small enough to require it, except maybe the Defiant class.
     
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  7. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    My canon! :)
     
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  8. Timofnine

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    Wow! I give this episode 11 out of 10! Can Star Trek continue to break the laws of physics at this rate? I just don’t know! But I thoroughly loved this episode and will be watching it many, many more times. :bolian:

    First of all I have to commend the continued high standards and quality of the costume, make up and prosthetics departments, the Delebian’s were brought to life in amazing detail. The cinematography on the planet Deleb was also impressive. Let’s hope that we continue to see some more cool location shooting throughout the series. Fresh air is good for the actors and helps them to act in more of a ‘free range’ environment away from green screens and polystyrene sets and painted backdrops. It’s good to get out of the office every now and again and also good for mental health. :techman:

    Credit to the special effects team once more for imagining the beautiful comet which guest starred in this episode. Both the long range beauty shots and the surface based away team scenes were quite something to behold. Does anybody know what the comet ‘Quentin’ was named after? Quentin Blake? Quentin Tarantino? I’m sure that there was once a Q in an episode of Voyager called Quentin, and I think that episode had a comet in it too? Is this episode of Strange New World’s a reboot or reimagining of the Voyager episode Deathwish? Probably not unless Quinn is short for Quentin. The comet also reminded me of the beautifully rendered comet from the DS9 opening credits, it was animated in a very similar way and filmed from similar angles; some of the subtle musical ques also made me think of DS9 as the celestial body first flew by… maybe it was kind of a discreet DS9 Easter egg/cameo? :D

    Uhura and Ortega seem like they are going to become really good friends, but we do not see Ortega in TOS or beyond so I am assuming that she will sadly die at some point during the Strange New World’s 5 year mission. Uhura also shows that she really wants to impress by being the only person in full Star Fleet dress uniform at an official function, was she over dressed or were the rest of the crew under dressed? I think that she looked great though regardless.

    Hemmer seems like a good addition to the crew, but I am confused about the pronunciation of his Andorian sub species name. I have always pronounced it Ay-nar not E-nar? The fact that he is visually impaired, a result of his sub-species evolving underground with no sunlight, and that his other senses have evolved to compensate without the need for technological augmentation such as a visor is a cool example of representation. Hemmer doesn’t seem as passive and spiritual as the Aenar as depicted in the Enterprise prequel series though so far.

    What is ‘hazing’ though? I didn’t get why Uhura was thinking that people were hazing her? Is this American slang for something?

    Pike told several bad jokes in this episode which the audience in the real world might not actually laugh at, most notably during the crew gathering where Uhura over dressed, but his captive on screen audience/crew seemed to laugh along anyway as if they were humoring him. It was a bit like ‘canned’ laughter.

    I am also curious who speaks the most languages now? Hoshi Sato or Nyoti Uhura?

    Pike also has a problem not only speaking about his own future ten years from now, but also that of his crew mates… this could show that he is projecting his fear of his own fate on to his crew; Pike could be starting to worry about their future just as much as his own.

    A common theme in these two first episodes is the prime directive, Pike and crew seem to love playing god saving planets from destruction. Is this a good thing? I think so… but something must happen to knock Pike down a peg or two with all his interfering or surely the Federation would have adapted the Prime Directive as a result of his successes? He might make a mistake at some point in the future which proves that general order number one and the PD must be adhered to? Let’s wait and see…

    This brings us on to the Shepherd’s. If an event is deemed to be ‘pre ordained’, or in simpler terms ‘meant to be’, but someone in the present tries to change what is considered to be ‘set in stone’ by those insisting that they know what is to come, does this mean that the people trying to preempt destiny or those trying to preserve a perceived outcome are right or wrong? This episode shows that even if someone changes a perceived destiny, if the outcome is mutually desirable due to interference it can still be claimed that it was ‘meant to be’? In other words, whatever happens in life we can all perceive it however we want to, interpret it as we see fit and act upon it in any way that we feel best as long as it is with good intentions and we still agree with the outcome as a result the said intervention, even if we didn’t agree with the intervention in the first place? We might even conflict on how we act in any given situation… but as long as the outcome is of mutual benefit and builds stronger relationships and cooperation in the long term, then surely that is meant to be?

    Cheers! :beer:
     
  9. shapeshifter

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    Please let every episode be like this.


    Just. Amazing.
     
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  10. fireproof78

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    Definition here:Hazing Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

    In more common colloquial terms it's basically the giving the rookie a hard time, or difficult task. In the past it could be humiliating or demeaning, but the more common use of the term is giving the rookie something difficult to do.
     
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  11. Amaris

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    I absolutely adore Chapel. If I were a coworker, we'd get into so much shit. Of course, it bothers me a bit that the Chapel we see here is significantly subdued later on, possibly from losing Roger Korby. I respect and admire that Nurse Chapel, but this Nurse Chapel is very awesome and I hate to see her go.
     
  12. Charles Phipps

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    Or she's transferred like Number One.

    She's in formal attire when it was a casual affair for regular uniforms or civies. Hazing is a term for pranking in the military or college level.

    It's also possible we just didn't get to see her humorous plucky side very often. Being under Doctor McCoy would wear down even the most stalwart souls after a time.
     
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  13. Verteron

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    I forgot to say, I thought Thom Marriott's performance as the Shepherd Captain was excellent for a man rendered only on a viewscreen doing (presumably) motion capture.
     
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  14. Jaimito

    Jaimito Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Love the tone and pace of the show.

    Another title for this episode could be
    No fate but what we make.

    I'm sure there are more than one entry for Andrea Lopez in the entire federation. Lol

    Enterprise has a Shazam App.
     
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  15. Amaris

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    Honestly, it's very likely he's looked them up before.
     
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  16. Noname Given

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    It was a full prosthetic alien - no CGI or motion capture involved:

    at 14:52 - they have behind the scenes shots of the actor in the prosthetic .
     
  17. valkyrie013

    valkyrie013 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    10 for me, that was a good one, nothing really to break my concentration .

    It's not like the Romulans and klingons went back to the dark ages. There are still signals emimating from there empires, so you still have signal intelligence, and civilian communications to listen to and gleen what is happening.
    Uhura might have been listening to that as part of her job.
     
  18. Jedi Marso

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    Given that the 1701 went from 203 crewmembers during the Pike era to 430 during Kirk's, maybe that can be used to explain the ridiculous space allocation for the captain's cabin versus Kirk's quarters in TOS. :rolleyes:

    In the meantime, the rest of the crew is wondering why the captain's cabin is bigger than the ship's entire recreation deck... :p
     
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  19. Amaris

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    [ hums the theme to Mystery Science Theater 3000 ]
     
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  20. Belz...

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    Well, Trek's chief consistency is its inconsistency.

    Hey, I'm giving you a way to reconcile things. If you don't want it, then fine. Wallow in your insatisfaction! ;)

    I haven't made a statistics on it. Torpedoes were definitely white in TOS, however.

    Like comets, there's a lot of ices composing the outer shells of the outer minor planets and moons. Were they close enough to the sun the ices could sublimate.