Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x02 - "Children of The Comet"

[Amaris]

"hey let's show this is Sam Kirk by rolling his unconscious body over the exact same way they rolled his body over in TOS"

Yeah, I even remarked "better get used to that position, Sam," and then I felt bad.

 

[ananta]

Oh. I didn’t enjoy that quite as much as everyone else it seems. It was solid but not as engaging as I expected. Took a long while for it to get going and the plot seemed pretty thin. Visually stunning, though, and I liked the use of music. I’m not sure why it didn’t fully grab me.

 

[Fateor]

But then he's changing THEIR fate. They may not turn out at all the same under different circumstances. His choice isn't just to save their lives and/or his, it's whether or not to interfere in the course of their lives in a way that he can't fully understand or predict. What if different postings destroys their careers or limits their opportunities? What if somehow experiencing the accident makes them all better Starfleet officers in the end? There's simply no way to know.

I fully understand why he's grappling with this knowledge. To act, or to not act, is a huge and chaotic decision. But, at least at this point in time, I feel like the only logical ending to the story is for Pike to ultimately decide to let fate take it's course, to make the choice in the moment that feels right and let the chips fall where they may. To accept that what he's seen is as much about who he is as who the cadets are. And to be true to himself in the end. Pike, by his very nature, WILL choose others before himself. It's just who he is, when you get right down to it.

Except there's no such thing as fate in Star Trek.

Only groups of time travelers trying to make one future or another the one that comes to pass.

 

[fireproof78]

It's her fault for instead learning all three Romulan dialects. A bit useless if they hadn't had contact for a hundred years, if you ask me.

I wonder if part of her study was research Federation's/Earth's past contact with the Romulans.

 

[MarsWeeps]

37 languages, but not Klingon.

Oh, she knew Klingon, but it was one of the things she didn't re-learn after the Nomad mind wipe.

 

[thribs]

Yeah, I even remarked "better get used to that position, Sam," and then I felt bad.

I was waiting for Pike to ask him where he see's himself in 10 years.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Could the device be of Preserver origin? If it isn't seeding life-forms, it's seeding planets to be more hospitable to life.

 

[Airmandan]

It was an excellent episode. The vibe was right, you had a good mystery, interesting aliens, and a tight storyline. It worked very well. Unlike the Picard series, everyone here felt like professionals, which was a welcome change. It didn't have the overblown melodrama that Discovery is famous for, and there was plenty of starship porn.

 

[thribs]

This was just the Moonfall plot. The asteroid is a super structure that seeds planets.

 

[Kaelef]

Don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but I though they did a nice job of evoking aspects of the TOS space/ev suits in this episode. Just the colored metallic chest bit was a enough.

 

[Airmandan]

Now that I know that the crew is a bunch of pranksters, my head canon is that they changed the room numbers and give Kirk a closet for a room, and Pikes quarters become a hidden lounge that all the Pike alumi hang out in.

 

[Charles Phipps]

It's her fault for instead learning all three Romulan dialects. A bit useless if they hadn't had contact for a hundred years, if you ask me.

I mean it wasn't even in the universal translator, it was that obscure.

Thank goodness she had her own books on it.

 

[Fateor]

Could the device be of Preserver origin? If it isn't seeding life-forms, it's seeding planets to be more hospitable to life.

Given the Preserver obelisk also used a tonal system? Highly likely.

 

[Yistaan]

I mean it wasn't even in the universal translator, it was that obscure.

Thank goodness she had her own books on it.

Sounds like the Klingon equivalent of the Taishan dialect of spoken Chinese.

Basically Uhura would only be speaking Mandarin Chinese, and maybe Cantonese. Taishanese/Toisan is so far down the list of priorities it's not even worth her time.

The thing is, only the lower classes of Klingons would speak the equivalent of this dialect, and they get shoved off to guard duty for Rura Penthe, which conveniently doubles as another security measure by screening out people who aren't even aware of this dialect.

 

[fireproof78]

Don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but I though they did a nice job of evoking aspects of the TOS space/ev suits in this episode. Just the colored metallic chest bit was a enough.

I miss those suits. I don't feel the new suits at all. The helmet needs an update but those suits were one of my favorite designs from TOS for what they were.

 

[Vale]

It felt very... second episode-y. Not bad, not great. A touch too much exposition pushing across the "real people just don't use words that way" boundary.

Anson Mount and Rebecca Romijn continue to shine, but I still don't enjoy Ethan Peck's Spock, and ManicPixieDreamGirlChapel is going to take some getting used to.

The shot of the Enterprise cruising through the comet debris was simply stunning though. Still preferable to Discovery despite any concerns I might have.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Given the Preserver obelisk also used a tonal system? Highly likely.

Jeez, I completely forgot about that part. I was just thinking about the seeding.

 

[Mr Awe]

Real solar system comets. But how would you call a larger, icy world like Pluto if it started having a coma while roaming near a star?

You have your hand wave and I've got mine.

 

[Vale]

I don't know, but in Trek history phasers were mostly reddish. Mostly.

TNG standardised on a sort of orange after they were yellow in The Wrath of Khan. They were generally blue in TOS though.

Real solar system comets. But how would you call a larger, icy world like Pluto if it started having a coma while roaming near a star?

A rogue dwarf planet. Real planets can have tails and it doesn't make them comets.

 

[Noname Given]

Except Discovery indicated the Fed hadn't talked to the Klingons in a hundred years either officially until the sudden Klingon war.

There had been some occassional Klingon raids (her parents were killed in one) and the Battle of Donatu V ten years earlier (even mentioned in the pilot STD episode); but no real direct diplomatic contact in all that time.