Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

[cooleddie74]

"See that up there? That's my winning card."

"What are cards?"

"Okay, we're leaving. Bomb yourselves to extinction for all I care."

 

[NCC-73515]

Unlike the scene in SNW, we don't see both sides of the beam-down. There is a time cut involved, so the implication at least is they changed clothes first. Might they have beamed down in uniform and arrived in civvies? Sure. Was it established? Nah.

TOS transporters could dematerialize a sitting person with their hands on plane controls, and rematerialize them standing up with their hands hanging down on the sides. That may be more complex than changing clothes...

 

[fireproof78]

"See that up there? That's my winning card."

"What are cards?"

"Okay, we're leaving. Bomb yourselves to extinction for all I care."

Ah, the Picard maneuver.

 

[Kevman7987]

Final thoughts on my earlier posts: It's probably just me and my own personal fears but I still find it very upsetting that Batel (someone who seems to deeply care for Pike) just straight up abandons him when he becomes disabled as far as current continuity goes. Yes Spock will come for Pike and reunite him with his true love Vina, but still.

 

[Farscape One]

There's still a lot of years until his fate. She could have been killed. She could have been on a deep space assignment. She might not have even known... even Kirk didn't know he was crippled when he went to the starbase.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Final thoughts on my earlier posts: It's probably just me and my own personal fears but I still find it very upsetting that Batel (someone who seems to deeply care for Pike) just straight up abandons him when he becomes disabled as far as current continuity goes. Yes Spock will come for Pike and reunite him with his true love Vina, but still.

But it hasn't happened yet and we can't know yet and what if she dies before it happens or she has been there and we didn't see her. That's the great thing about fiction.

 

[cooleddie74]

There's still a lot of years until his fate. She could have been killed. She could have been on a deep space assignment. She might not have even known... even Kirk didn't know he was crippled when he went to the starbase.

Mendez: "You don't know? You actually don't know what's happened to Captain Pike? There's been subspace chatter about it for months."

Seems that Kirk and the Enterprise were largely out of touch on the frontier or the decision to reveal Fleet Captain Pike's injuries was one that involved leaking the news out piecemeal without some huge news service story being published.

 

[Farscape One]

If she was on a deep space assignment, on the frontier, she likely wouldn't hear about it, just like Kirk.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Maybe she died. Maybe they broke up years prior. Who knows?

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Final thoughts on my earlier posts: It's probably just me and my own personal fears but I still find it very upsetting that Batel (someone who seems to deeply care for Pike) just straight up abandons him when he becomes disabled as far as current continuity goes. Yes Spock will come for Pike and reunite him with his true love Vina, but still.

‪‪I don’t think that we have any reason to believe that Batel abandons him at all. ‪‪Given all the information we have available to us, I don’t think he and Batel were in a committed exclusive relationship. ‪‪I responded yesterday regarding part of my reason for this thinking:

In the first full series trailer that dropped after the character spotlight shorts at the beginning of April there’s a quick shot of Pike in bed with a woman with hair that’s much longer and curlier than Melanie Scrofano’s as Captain Batel.

It could be her just with longer hair, but something about the body language of the woman in the blink-and-you’d-miss-it scene with Pike in bed from the trailer, when she playfully pats/slaps Pike makes me think it’s a different actor playing a different character.

Between that glimpse that seems to show Pike with someone else, and the exchange between Batel and Pike over breakfast, with Pike saying “So give me a call, we'll get together,” makes me think Pike and Batel are a fairly casual relationship, and not necessarily too serious, or exclusive/monogamous.

‪‪I absolutely understand the concern, ‪‪I wouldn’t want to see them portray someone abandoning their partner because they’ve become disabled. ‪‪I don’t think at this point we should assume much from Batel and Pike’s relationship. ‪‪I think there’s a high likelihood that we will see Pike playing the field this season, and throughout the course of this series.

 

[Noname Given]

Final thoughts on my earlier posts: It's probably just me and my own personal fears but I still find it very upsetting that Batel (someone who seems to deeply care for Pike) just straight up abandons him when he becomes disabled as far as current continuity goes. Yes Spock will come for Pike and reunite him with his true love Vina, but still.

A lot can change in any relationship over 8 - 10 years. In TOS S2 - "The Menagerie" it's stated there's been subspace chatter for months. For all we know, she came by earlier and Pike sent her away.

 

[T'Bonz]

The most overriding message I took away, particularly from speaking to moderate Republicans who had nonetheless swung under him: we got sick of being shouted at, preached at, scorned, so we sent someone back to Washington to go hit the other side back even harder...THAT is the fallacy of using a bigger stick. When you villify "the other side", you hit two types of people: people who don't care what you think (and so your shouting is wasted), and people who are willing to listen, but get hardened when they're called names and yelled at. Bigger stick mentality is EXACTLY what went on there. Let's hope we get a few more uniters in power in more countries.
And thus, the cycle continued...

Pretty sad that it takes a non-American to "get it." Sign me moderate Independent.

Back to Trek - sometimes it was laid on really thick (Let That Be....), and other times (A Private Little War) it was done very well. I don't mind a bit of preaching as some call it, but subtlety is always welcome as opposed to the hammer.

 

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[Enterprise is Great]

Pretty good debut episode. Funny how the planet in this episode was very much like Earth considering what the name of the series is. But OTOH Earth is a pretty strange place at times. I gave it a 7.

 

[VKORECTU]

A Private Little War was commentary on the US and Soviet's proxy wars around the world. Patterns of Force, John Gill and entertaining the idea fascism is a good idea if done right. The Doomsday Machine, speaks for itself on the MAD doctrine. Trek has always been very pointed on modern politics.

Capitol Riots to WW3? One thing leads to another... protests over access to Jerusalem led to the Crimean War, a tax protest on tea led to the American Revolution, history's tragedies are born from small and often insignificant moments no one could foresee the consequences in their time.

I loved the use of The Day the Earth Stood Still in this with Pike's variation on Klaatu's speech. No need for the robots, the nukes will take care of the planetary annihilation.

The ending was very rushed and they did not even leave mediators behimnd or explain the cause of the war which would have made it more meaningful. This failure make its vapid and superficial.

Instead they wasted time on the stupid chase scene by the white haired nurse for a cheap laugh.
Why would the pserson do that anyway i mean they came from white corridors and rooms on the planet and were still in a white room so why the panic. why the fear?


Is the white hair a wig or really like that?

 

[Belz...]

The ending was very rushed and they did not even leave mediators behimnd or explain the cause of the war which would have made it more meaningful. This failure make its vapid and superficial.

Instead they wasted time on the stupid chase scene by the white haired nurse for a cheap laugh.

Sensing a pattern, here.

Why would the pserson do that anyway i mean they came from white corridors and rooms on the planet and were still in a white room so why the panic. why the fear?

If you think waking up surrounded by aliens probing you is not fear-inducing, you are braver than I.

 

[VKORECTU]

Sensing a pattern, here.


If you think waking up surrounded by aliens probing you is not fear-inducing, you are braver than I.

What aliens. They looked very similar and were hardly monsters. no one was probing anyone. he was just lying on a bed.
They could jusy have left him in the transporter or the brig or a white painted room.

 

[Gov Kodos]

The ending was very rushed and they did not even leave mediators behimnd or explain the cause of the war which would have made it more meaningful. This failure make its vapid and superficial.

No, there was no need for spoon feeding, or the Federation's Burden to Civilize the Natives. Pike left them like Klaatu at the start. Gave them the facts and left them to decide what to do with their planet. The implications from the scenes afterward imply they stepped back from their abyss. No need for spoon feeding.

Instead they wasted time on the stupid chase scene by the white haired nurse for a cheap laugh.Why would the pserson do that anyway i mean they came from white corridors and rooms on the planet and were still in a white room so why the panic. why the fear?

Aliens, he freaked out seeing aliens. Running through corridors without security all the way to the bridge is just old school TOS. Silly but security has always sucked on the Enterprise.

Is the white hair a wig or really like that?

About as important as nacelle colors.

 

[VKORECTU]

No, there was no need for spoon feeding, or the Federation's Burden to Civilize the Natives. Pike left them like Klaatu at the start. Gave them the facts and left them to decide what to do with their planet. The implications from the scenes afterward imply they stepped back from their abyss. No need for spoon feeding.


Aliens, he freaked out seeing aliens. Running through corridors without security all the way to the bridge is just old school TOS. Silly but security has always sucked on the Enterprise.



About as important as nacelle colors.

The wig was seen in Eternals or x-men i think

 

[Paterson]

Aliens, he freaked out seeing aliens.

I can suspend disbelief in these cases, but in the end it is really mostly just a weird nose, not much obviously apparent "alienness" involved.