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Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

Rate the Episode

  • 1 - Excellent

    Votes: 147 45.9%
  • 2

    Votes: 81 25.3%
  • 3

    Votes: 60 18.8%
  • 4

    Votes: 12 3.8%
  • 5

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • 6

    Votes: 4 1.3%
  • 7

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • 8

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • 9

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 10 - Terrible

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    320
  • Poll closed .
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there is precedent :)
Unlike the scene in SNW, we don't see both sides of the beam-down. There is a time cut involved, so the implication at least is they changed clothes first. Might they have beamed down in uniform and arrived in civvies? Sure. Was it established? Nah.
 
*Shrugs*

Ok. I don't think anyone is stupid; just that I had a similar experience.
You're not saying that, no, which is why I just wanted to explain how someone like me might approach the question presented by Dave's teacher. I would have figured it out, yeah, but from conditioning to think like other people (which is weird, and constraining) rather than my own intuitive deduction. It's like the mental equivalent of being forced to use your right hand instead of your left like schools used to do back when I was a kid. I was ambidextrous and they shut that shit down fast. :lol:

I would have figured it out, but only because I take no chances with new teachers. I examine every aspect of the test before I take it, just so I don't come upon any trick questions. The problem is that for someone like myself, and I'm certain many others, such a tactic would be fruitless because it doesn't teach you to think critically, only to understand that your teacher is going to try to trick you, and while that can be a valuable skill to learn, I don't think it's in most teachers lesson plans.

Oh, and regarding the kindergarten class that day, my teacher came in about 20 minutes later and asked me why I was still there. I explained to her that I had arrived in a car, and wasn't told where to go. She yelled at me. :lol:
 
You're not saying that, no, which is why I just wanted to explain how someone like me might approach the question presented by Dave's teacher. I would have figured it out, yeah, but from conditioning to think like other people (which is weird, and constraining) rather than my own intuitive deduction. It's like the mental equivalent of being forced to use your right hand instead of your left like schools used to do back when I was a kid. I was ambidextrous and they shut that shit down fast. :lol:

I would have figured it out, but only because I take no chances with new teachers. I examine every aspect of the test before I take it, just so I don't come upon any trick questions. The problem is that for someone like myself, and I'm certain many others, such a tactic would be fruitless because it doesn't teach you to think critically, only to understand that your teacher is going to try to trick you, and while that can be a valuable skill to learn, I don't think it's in most teachers lesson plans.
Ok.

I guess I can see that. Certainly past education experiences and current ones are not inspiring my confidence in the ability for some to think criticially.

But, I'm also someone who found it quite hilarious at the time, especially since my first instinct was to complete all the answers anyway.
 
Ok.

I guess I can see that. Certainly past education experiences and current ones are not inspiring my confidence in the ability for some to think criticially.

But, I'm also someone who found it quite hilarious at the time, especially since my first instinct was to complete all the answers anyway.
Oh, certainly there is a dearth of critical thinking in education, particularly in the US. Hell, the literacy rate in the US is around 79%, and that includes people who aren't actually proficient. 54% of that number includes people who can't read at or better than a 6th grade reading level. So if we can't even get people to read, getting them to think critically is a monstrous task that modern schools aren't equipped to handle.

Oh, and also, yay Star Trek, to keep it on topic.
 
So if we can't even get people to read, getting them to think critically is a monstrous task that modern schools aren't equipped to handle.
I have an easier time with thinking critically than helping with the reading part with working with students.
 
I have an easier time with thinking critically than helping with the reading part with working with students.
True, equipping kids with the ability to think critically isn't as difficult as reading. Hell, kids are naturally curious and ask a thousand questions about everything. I've found kids to be more skeptical of things that adults will swallow whole.
 
I find that watching Star Trek prompts critical thinking to fill the holes in plot and reconcile discontinuities, where possible.
Good point. Depending upon how much you're willing to work out in your own head while you watch can make one person give an episode a 10, and another person a 1, and all drawn from personal experience, too.
 
True, equipping kids with the ability to think critically isn't as difficult as reading. Hell, kids are naturally curious and ask a thousand questions about everything.
Yeah, but the problem is teaching them to KEEP these skills as they grow older, and set in their ways, biases and prejudices. It has to become a reflex to question oneself and the information we come by, and THAT is very difficult.
 
Yeah, but the problem is teaching them to KEEP these skills as they grow older, and set in their ways, biases and prejudices. It has to become a reflex to question oneself and the information we come by, and THAT is very difficult.
It is. I figure part of it is conditioning (do your job and don't ask questions), and the other part is just being exhausted trying to make ends meet. It's hard to sit down and think critically when your brain just wants to rest.
 
It is. I figure part of it is conditioning (do your job and don't ask questions), and the other part is just being exhausted trying to make ends meet. It's hard to sit down and think critically when your brain just wants to rest.
On the other hand, rich people with no day job are just as intellectually lazy as the rest of us, so it's probably something more fundamental.
 
What do you think it is?
I'm not sure, actually. But it seems to me like children are more apt at learning those skills, but tend to lose them later on, so that's a lead, I guess. Is it just experience, or brain chemistry? I don't know.
 
I'm not sure, actually. But it seems to me like children are more apt at learning those skills, but tend to lose them later on, so that's a lead, I guess. Is it just experience, or brain chemistry? I don't know.
Children do have greater neuroplasticity in the brain than adults do. They're more flexible when it comes to changing information, their brains more capable of adapting. It could be that, I'd guess.
 
And if we're just limiting "woke political messaging" to even mentions of then-current or recent events TOS mentioned Hitler by name at least three times over three seasons. Trek has always had a political underbelly to comment on the modern world and whether it's as subtle as a sledgehammer or far more quiet it's always there.
Way to Eden was entirely turn on, tune in, drop out. All they needed was the lava lamps and Timothy Leary.
 
I'm not sure, actually. But it seems to me like children are more apt at learning those skills, but tend to lose them later on, so that's a lead, I guess. Is it just experience, or brain chemistry? I don't know.
I wonder if it is a function of heuristics, or mental short cuts. Over time, they become the default mode.

Also, there is a huge amount of value in play which children do regularly while adults have to work at. Play invites plasticity.
 
So, at the climax, when their leader rejects his entreaties not to kill her own people to put down a rebellion by saying 'You're giving me aphorisms. Not nearly so useful as having a big stick," Pike calls Enterprise to drop into low orbit and reveal itself to the entire population. And he says to the leader, "I have the biggest stick.

I kept hearing "the biggest dick" (which I knew they were not saying) and had to put on my good headphones to make sure.
 
I kept hearing "the biggest dick" (which I knew they were not saying) and had to put on my good headphones to make sure.
They kept saying "biggest stick" but it was just a more tv friendly way to describe what truly was essentially a dick measuring contest. Pike basically made them see whose dick was bigger was pointless when the Federation has awesome spaceships.
 
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