Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

[Rahul]

I really liked how this episode was kinda' a reversal of that movie. With a first contact saucer ship, alien(s) walking as humans among us, big speech in the end (of course there was no robot, it's not really 1:1 - just a general idea).

Really feels like somebody really actually spent time thinking about that stuff while writing the episode.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I wish this had been a two hour premiere with the first half showing the First Contact and how it got botched. True, we have seen it before in other stories, but exploring how Number One viewed her failure would have been highly interesting.

 

[Kelso]

I would be remiss if I failed to mention that I have a podcast called Earth Station Trek with some good friends of mine... and that our SNW episode is now available. It began as a time killer during lockdown when my wife and I could no longer perform stage shows, but ended up becoming a highlight of the week for me.

So, if you're so inclined... https://www.podbean.com/ea/pb-shn7q-121fb35

Computer, end self promotion.

 

[UssGlenn]

I'm going to try to re-watch Arena tonite. It might be consistent with their original appearance, but don't you think this characterization completely negates the anti-prejudice message of TOS’s Arena, of not judging people(or species) based on their physical appearances?

But just because you don't pre-judge them doesn't mean they won't still turn out to be aggressive and incompatible with your society. Not everyone will be the Horta. And even if they are incompatible we can still respect their position/territory.

 

[Vince A]

I think that what he calls a "Burnham/Raffi-type" is usually referred to as "women" by most.

Comments like this are just ridiculous. There were plenty of women in SNW, none of which I criticized.

I'm criticizing character, not sex/gender. But you already knew that.

 

[jackoverfull]

Comments like this are just ridiculous. There were plenty of women in SNW, none of which I criticized.

I'm criticizing character, not sex/gender. But you already knew that.

I just don’t get what those three characters have in common besides being women and serving in Starfleet.

 

[1001001]

Maybe "mean" isn't the right word, (Cranky?) but at least based on this episode, La'an is another Burnham/Raffi-type who continually pop up in Kurtzman productions, even his non-trek related ones.

I see little commonality between the three characters.

I might see one...

 

[Nerroth]

I can't help but wonder if the run-up to the Third World War might have been portrayed differently had this episode been written in 2022. As in, perhaps there might have been less of an onus on events within the United States, and perhaps more on flashpoints elsewhere in the world: be they active ones at this time of writing (such as the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine) or other areas at risk of existential conflict (such as Taiwan).

To put it another way: there are serious issues at stake within the United States of America at present, and major implications for the rest of the world depending on how these are (or are not) resolved; no doubt these questions were keenly on the minds of the production staff when this episode was being made. Yet I'm not sure how true it rings for the postulated further escalation of those problems to lead to global nuclear catastrophe in and of themselves - not least when there are millions of people whose lives are presently in the process of being traumatically uprooted through a major war in which the aggressor state has attempted to leverage the threat of nuclear warfare to influence the countries otherwise acting to support the state currently being invaded.

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Also, I don't want to prejudge what (if anything) the producers might have in mind for the Gorn in future episodes. But I'm not entirely sold on the way in which they are being presented thus far.

I admit to preferring how the Gorns (yes, plural s) are portrayed over in the Star Fleet Universe (and in the first two-and-a-half Starfleet Command PC games), in which the incident at Cestus III involved two brash, young captains who fired first and faced embarrassing questions later. But while I would expect the Franchise Gorn to go a very different path - just as the SFU Klingons are very different to the post-1979 Franchise Klingons - I'm not particularly keen on the path being chosen for them here.

Still, I suppose it's possible that there might be different factions of Gorn out there, with different viewpoints and practices regarding star-faring mammalian species. I'll wait and see.

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Also, it might be something others have argued all too many times over, but I still wish that this re-imagining of the Enterprise itself had avoided the TMP-esque sweep back of the warp nacelle struts. Or rather, the design as it stands would work better for me as a post-TOS refit design, rather than purporting to be the same ship (and of the same era) as Matt Jefferies' original.

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Still, none of these issues were enough to distract me from enjoying this episode, or to prevent me from looking forward to seeing what the rest of season 1 has in store.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Comments like this are just ridiculous. There were plenty of women in SNW, none of which I criticized.

I'm criticizing character, not sex/gender. But you already knew that.

Bullshit.

You made it about sex/gender when you said that the type applies only to "girl" characters.

Singh: Much like Tarantino’s love of feet, I guess Kurtzmans “Mean-Girl” fetish is just something that’s going to be continuously forced on the audience. I’m not trying to kink-shame the guy, but surely, he must see how this is getting in the way of good storytelling.

 

[BillJ]

So yeah, seems like very calculated, callous and savage behavior by the Gorn in TOS - "Arena" itself -- no SNW retcon here.

Even if they aren't up to human morals, it is something else entirely to turn them into Xenomorphs from the Alien franchise. Kinda defeats what Trek is all about.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

PIKE: So...La'an? Ever hear of Commander Nhan? She's gone. Nhan gone gone. Like Khan in Botany Bay. Far, far away...






PIKE: So...Spock? I hear T'Pring is hanging out with Stonn. Stonn gone Pon Farr, far away. Stonn gone gone.

 

[XCV330]

Singh: Much like Tarantino’s love of feet, I guess Kurtzmans “Mean-Girl” fetish is just something that’s going to be continuously forced on the audience. I’m not trying to kink-shame the guy, but surely, he must see how this is getting in the way of good storytelling.

There's nothing fetishistic about having people of different temperaments on the show. Did Tilly, Burnham, Cornwell, Tendi, Tana, Freeman, Owosekun, Jennifer (who invited Jennifer?!), Pollard, Detmer, Reno, Nilsson, Prime Georgiou, Nhan or Airam* exhibit this behavior ?

I don't get it. At all.


*eliminating what for you must be the prime suspects

 

[cooleddie74]

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"I wonder if I can transport him out into space and nobody will ever trace what happened."

 

[Tuskin38]

There's nothing fetishistic about having people of different temperaments on the show. Did Tilly, Burnham, Cornwell, Tendi, Tana, Freeman, Owosekun, Jennifer (who invited Jennifer?!), Pollard, Detmer, Reno, Nilsson, Prime Georgiou, Nhan or Airam* exhibit this behavior ?

I don't get it. At all.


*eliminating what for you must be the prime suspects

Also Kurtzman didn't create La'an.

People need to stop blaming him for shit he didn't do.

 

[fireproof78]

Also Kurtzman didn't create La'an.

People need to stop blaming him for shit he didn't do.

Kurtzman is the newest punching bag.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Kurtzman is the newest punching bag.

Braga is relieved. Abram's wipes the sweat from his brow.

 

[GNDN18]

Braga is relieved. Abram's wipes the sweat from his brow.

Fred Freiberger has the last laugh.

 

[cooleddie74]

Brian Brophy plays them all.

 

[Donald G]

Fred Freiberger has the last laugh.

With regard to Star Trek, anyway.

Star Trek's not the only series responsible for Freiberger's reputation.

 

[comsol]

Fred Freiberger has the last laugh.

Space: 1999 would like a word...