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Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"
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One of the things which is so lovely about this episode is they weren't afraid to have a pretty generic first contact plot - with a 21st century Earth expy, no real alien characters, etc. I see some people criticizing this as not that creative, but the focus of the episode was solely on Pike's emotional journey back to command (helped along by La'an of all people). It was ultimately a character-driven story, not a plot-driven one, and the big choices that Pike makes at the end of the episode are driven by what has already been established about his emotional state - not plot railroading.
Actually, La'an's backstory FIXES a interesting issue with TOS S1 "Arena" in that - In the opening Teaser Kirk is conversing with (supposedly Commodore Travers live over a ground to surface radio link in the 1701 Transporter Room) when in fact it's the Gorn 'faking' Commodre Travers voice and personality:
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/19.htm
So yeah, to be able to do that the Gorn had to have A LOT of specific info on Starfleet that I doubt they got from the Cestus III base, as from later dialogue in "Arena" the Gorn just wiped everything on the Base out completely. The Base even offered to surrender, but the Gorn just kept going and killed everyone and destroyed everything. So yeah, the Gorn had to get that info from somewhere - and it appears it was by capturing Star Fleet ships that ventured into their space over a long period of time to amass such detailed info.
humanity went about 1800 years from the Aeopile to Watt's steam engine. 49 years from discovering radiactivity to Trinity Test. Plus with the plasma torpedos, it seemed like their world was farther along than ours is, almost at about the same point Cochraine came up with the warp drive.
Just watched it.
It was Star Trek. A couple nitpicks, but it was Star Trek.
MOAR!
It was Star Trek. A couple nitpicks, but it was Star Trek.
MOAR!
Ortegas:
"Course captain? What's the mission?"
Pike:
"Our mission? We explore. We seek out new life and new civilizations. We boldly go where no one has gone before."
Uhura:
"Cool!"
^That sequence of dialog at the end of the episode, is a microcosm of what's wrong with it.
"Course captain? What's the mission?"
Pike:
"Our mission? We explore. We seek out new life and new civilizations. We boldly go where no one has gone before."
Uhura:
"Cool!"
^That sequence of dialog at the end of the episode, is a microcosm of what's wrong with it.
Uhura's "Cool!" is immediately lampshaded with a "sorry, sir!" And Pike's dialogue is totally fine.
This is probably* the best episode so far of streaming-era Star Trek.
* - Don't want to get too hasty and overlook anything. There are several Lower Decks episodes not too far behind at most (especially relative to all the others). There's maybe a Prodigy episode and are also a few DISCO episodes rounding out the top ten.
But, my word, what a strong opening. Probably** the best opening episode of any series.
** - Wouldn't want to get too hasty and overlook anything here, either.
* - Don't want to get too hasty and overlook anything. There are several Lower Decks episodes not too far behind at most (especially relative to all the others). There's maybe a Prodigy episode and are also a few DISCO episodes rounding out the top ten.
But, my word, what a strong opening. Probably** the best opening episode of any series.
** - Wouldn't want to get too hasty and overlook anything here, either.
Man, that's a great catch!
I thought that scene was great! Most of the show was lovely and fun. Can't wait for more!
Tell me you're a TNG fan without telling me you're a TNG fan
And... you're saying that's a bad thing...?
What exactly kind of sci-fi TV show are you wanting? The only thing I can think of that would accurately fit your description is Kubrick's 2001.
The Armada made it to Vulcan (from Earth) in a short time (a few hours, maybe) when Nero was attacking Vulcan.
), a 2. Or a normal 9.
Watching this now. I had to pause for a moment. First of all, I like how this rolls off of DSC Season 2. Second of all, there's a way that I relate to Pike's "death" less than 10 years from now in a way that I wish I didn't. Cancer runs in my family. Based on my family's history, there's a 50/50 chance I'll get it. My mother died when she was 50, from cancer. There's a good chance I might get it and I'm less than a 10 years younger than how old my mother was when she died. Sorry this is really personal, but sometimes I wonder. And this Sunday is Mother's Day. Is there a chance that 10 years from now, I won't be around? I think about that sometimes. That 10 years from now, I might be dead. Hopefully not. Hopefully it's still a long way's away. But I still wonder: am I making the most of my time? I don't know.
Sorry, I didn't mean to start off with something so heavy. It just, fortunately or unfortunately, touched me a certain way I actually can unfortunately relate to.
Anyway, on a brighter note: I love Pike's cabin. And I'm glad they didn't make Pike into another Kirk when that woman was in his cabin. It's not a fling. It looks like a real relationship. Good.
The scenes with Spock and T'Pring both work in their own right and set up how T'Pring would want to get divorced from him by the time of "Amok Time".
That's all I have, so far. Back to the episode.
Sorry, I didn't mean to start off with something so heavy. It just, fortunately or unfortunately, touched me a certain way I actually can unfortunately relate to.
Anyway, on a brighter note: I love Pike's cabin. And I'm glad they didn't make Pike into another Kirk when that woman was in his cabin. It's not a fling. It looks like a real relationship. Good.
The scenes with Spock and T'Pring both work in their own right and set up how T'Pring would want to get divorced from him by the time of "Amok Time".
That's all I have, so far. Back to the episode.
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