Overall, I'd rank the Kurtzman-era premiere episodes like this:
Prodigy
Picard
Strange New Worlds
Discovery
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Prodigy
Picard
Strange New Worlds
Discovery
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Lower Decks
Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"
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The matter is also complicated by the fact that the episode shows street demonstrations on Kiley, which apparently represent the opposition to the government.
And then Pike shows images of American street demonstrations, most easily identified by the placards and colors as being right-wingers (there's one shot of a night demonstration, with fires burning, that might be something else).
So a visual connection is drawn, however inadvertently, between those who oppose the Kileyite government, and the "Audit the Vote" folks.
And who on Kiley digit-digit-digit is threatening to use a warp bomb to maintain order? Well, apparently not the street demonstrators. It's the government.
We pretty much know what side of the argument most people working on this show probably embrace. The majority of us on this BBS probably line up with those causes, and we "know" what they meant to say. That does not mean they made choices that unambiguously communicate that, and it was probably deliberate.
Actually for me it's the reverse. I don't mind the heavy-handedness but if the aforementioned group could latch on to Trek and its ideology, it would better than to antagonise them.
Wouldn't that be nice if people were not so broad sweeping in such generalizations and encourage ideological exploration?
True, but then entire cities were destroyed in some wars and were soon rebuilt. Think Athens or Dresden. The point is that we can and have survived and prospered following enormous devastation and loss.
Where? DS9's entire story arc is about this. Aside from fleeting moments, where do those other series do this?
Spend entire arcs in gloom mode? No way.
I found a lot more positivity in DISC and PIC at times then someone of the downer endings of TOS.
It's all in perspective.
What I often see in Trek, as well as other places, is that those are on the opposite, be it politics, religion, or Star Trek, are generalized as all being horrible or wrong, rather welcomed despite differences and encouraged to explore new ideologies.
Quite.
I think the heavy-handedness doesn't bother me as much as it making the episode feel a bit dated.
The art and literature were saved by PAX from Roddenberry's "Genesis II" and "Planet Earth."
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Maybe so, but right now is when we need to hear it.
Fiction is for the now. Not for the future.
It doesn't seem like you're considering the nuclear fallout after such a war. That would create an ongoing hazard. Not to mention, nuclear winter. The years after such a war would be harsh.
I'm not thinking that a nuclear war, even a limited one, is a good prescription for "prospering!"
SNW season 1 is in 2259, 'about 10 years' after 2259 would still be after 'The Menagerie'
Trek heavyhanded? Man. Someone better get on the phone to 1965 and try to put a stop to this.
I keep getting a busy signal.
I wouldn't answer at all.
It's cooler.
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