The future again looks fun and stylish to live in. Love all the color.
Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"
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The future again looks fun and stylish to live in. Love all the color.
"Get it right next week" isn't "just pointing out" anything. It's a command.
Excellent. Now point to the line of dialogue that established that there ISN'T one.
Amazing logic. We haven't seen any toilets, either.
Er... no.
We were talking about SNW in context with TOS.
I thought the set-up was really well done. The opening actish* is easily the best of any Trek pilot and really one of the best for the franchise ever.
*Accounting for variance of structure/time over the decades.
*Accounting for variance of structure/time over the decades.
We can extrapolate from what we’ve seen on screen. Unless we’re working under the assumption McCoy and his medical staff are incompetent.
I really enjoyed it. A great start
Interesting to see Cardassia, Trill and Bajor on the star map, I wonder if we'll see first contact with any of them.
Interesting to see Cardassia, Trill and Bajor on the star map, I wonder if we'll see first contact with any of them.
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Yes! I forgot to mention that it's bright! I can see things! I know who is talking at any given time! FINALLY!
Not a very strong start, but it had its high points. The characterisation of pike and Spock in particular were great and I love what they are doing with t’pring. I didn’t like at all chapel, though, and how unprofessionally having those aliens aboard was dealt with.
I know many fans won’t “accept” Spock and T’Pring being this involved at this point, but I think this goes a great way in making Vulcan society more sensible.
Regarding the rest of the episode, I don’t have much to say…I’m a bit confused at what happened to the Archer’s crew: we’re there only three of them? And how did they get imprisoned?
Another issue, already present on Discovery, is that this show tries to be a prequel while at the same time being more advanced than the future shows. And I’m not talking looks here: why the gene therapy (wasn’t that banned in the first place?) that unluckily wears off when in *future* Trek they relied on makeup or surgery in similar situation? Why all this talk of the Gorn when the first contact with them is supposedly a decade in the future? Since when there is an emergency transporter in sickbay? Why the quarters are so huge?
All in all all these problems would go away if this was just another timeline.
Cool to see George Kirk.
So WWIII is now officially in the 21st century, as are the eugenic wars.
I know many fans won’t “accept” Spock and T’Pring being this involved at this point, but I think this goes a great way in making Vulcan society more sensible.
Regarding the rest of the episode, I don’t have much to say…I’m a bit confused at what happened to the Archer’s crew: we’re there only three of them? And how did they get imprisoned?
Another issue, already present on Discovery, is that this show tries to be a prequel while at the same time being more advanced than the future shows. And I’m not talking looks here: why the gene therapy (wasn’t that banned in the first place?) that unluckily wears off when in *future* Trek they relied on makeup or surgery in similar situation? Why all this talk of the Gorn when the first contact with them is supposedly a decade in the future? Since when there is an emergency transporter in sickbay? Why the quarters are so huge?
All in all all these problems would go away if this was just another timeline.
Cool to see George Kirk.
So WWIII is now officially in the 21st century, as are the eugenic wars.
It's not explicitly first contact though.
"Gorn" is in quotation marks. The official report isn't even sure if first contact happened.
Spock didn’t recognize them in “Arena”, even though it looks like he will be dealing with them in SNW.
Goodness, someone needs a timeout! Or maybe less caffeine!
As I mentioned, while TOS as a whole shows there is no transporter in sickbay, I'm happy to accept that as a TOS oversight than a SNW problem. Although, they could've been consistent by having a transporter room right next to sickbay. But, as I said, it's a quibble . . . as in not a big issue.
Is that answer satisfactory for you? Sheesh!
Let's do some simple math for you. The US and USSR each have enough destroy the world MULTIPLE times over. Yet, only 1/3 of humans were killed. By definition, that is limited and not all out. If it was all out, there'd be no one left alive. 100% destroyed.
Did I explain that simply enough for you?
Doesn’t La’an describe and name them when talking to Pike?
Well, I guess the dramatists from the Federation got that one wrong, then
Yeah, but it's just a name at that point. The name Gorn was mentioned to Archer 104 years earlier with no repercussions and at this point even Starfleet doesn't know for sure what the Gorn are or if contact's even happened.
Well, I guess the dramatists from the Federation got that one wrong, then
Another case of SIS (Spock Idiot Syndrome), where he conveniently forgets prior exploits.
Wwiii always was meant to be in the 21st century. It was directly referenced in First Contact as being so.
Eugenics is harder to explain but even is Ds9 it was mentioned as being 300 years ago rather than the 400 it would be to have taken place in the 20th, I think the subtly rescanned this a while back.
Course, that could also have been Wesley's mistake he mentions in the Picard finale....
She actually interacted with them.
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