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STD: Only Marginally Better than The Final Frontier

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Two: You want proof I'm a writer??? My fanfiction account is at https://www.fanfiction.net/u/6912772/
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/6912772/
1. You missed the point. YOU claimed the Discovery writers write shit, that means YOU are saying being a writer has nothing to do with having good or even decent writing abilites so why does it matter that you are a writer? You only mentioned that you are a writer to give your opinion more weight but according to your own other statements it doesn't give your opinion any weight at all.
2. Your fanfiction account? Are you kidding me?:rofl:

Three: Who the hell said that the technical manuals were any less canon that STD???
The fact that books are not canon while tv shows are.

Five: That statement about the deltas is pure bullcrap. I haven't found a single reference online to support this, other than a few quotes by the writers and crew of STD. No official sources before STD have ever stated this or said anything but what I have said.
Is a source from 1967 good enough? http://www.startrek.com/article/starfleet-insignia-explained
 
Great, the thread is still open. Didn't see that coming; nice to be positively surprised.


Nah, I'm having fun.


As it turns out a lot of people have different opinions on stuff. Personally I kinda like STV but more for nostagia reasosn. I saw it as a kid and it was a sort of fun watch, even though not of great quality.


I wonder that myself every ten posts. Even at my own posts :D


Me Four: The One With the Whales. I'm too lazy to think of a joke...


Personally I found them to be all rather explainable but others have taken different approaches. Daniel sees Discovery as an alternate universe show; and he's a payed CBS plant.


From what I've heard the spore stuff is veeeery vaguely rooted on real concepts but stretcht to a point where they make a cool sci fi concept.


Notsure why that's a bad thing per se.


She has to overcome that. That's the point. She starts the war because she can't deal with Klingons and... well, you'lle see once you see the finale


She started a war, got court-martialed, lost her rank and gets hate from literally everyone she previously knew who's still alive. How's that a Mary Sue?


Like, one person.


Yeah, fair point, the ruined that. But at least we might get Prime-Lorca in the future.


I am certain they will get rid of the Spore Drive by the end of the show, permanently. I mean, the writers remembered to erase Burnham's mutiny account because it clashes with TOS I'm sure they won't forget the Spore Drive that, if it would become public knowledge, put a major wrench into the workings of Voyager.


I disagree. Even in this admittedly darker show you can find classic Trek stuff; like the tardigrade being freed a few episodes in.


This is literally true for every new series, nay, every new episode after "The Cage".


They visit on single location. I can see Qo'noS (as we trufans who have enough time to memorize the name of every Trek planet call it :D ) as being a divided/segregated society. Somewhere else the Augment Klingons are hanging around and the TNG Klingons are doing business elsewhere.


I'm pretty sure that's not the case.


Except for the one in TAS: "The Practical Joker" on the Enterprise.


If I recall correctly in the TOS episode "The Enterprise Incident" Kirk and Spock get form-fitting Romulan uniforms early on in the episode. Where exactly do you think they got them from? I mean, sure, maybe the Enterprise got someone who sews all the away mission stuff but I think it's easier to assume that 23rd century starfleet is able to replicate food and clothes.


in a very casual conversation where Janeway also claims there were "Romulans hiding behind every nebula". She also says that "the technology we take for granted was still in its early stages" which I think fits nicely with the clothes and food only replicators and the holodecks that don't allow audible interaction with the holograms.


Yeah, that was pretty shitty, but one of the participants is now dead and the other was court-martialed; maybe also for that.


Yes, apparantly they don't. Is that a bad thing?


Oh, well, in that case.


The official Star Trek website: They list VGR, TOS, TNG, DS9, ENT, TAS and DSC as well as all the movies as canon.

I will be honest. The corpse bomb is the biggest thing this show still needs to get over. It may be a few minutes in the pilot, but it is so so deeply wrong from many perspectives, that whatever my grr argh is over some of the really bad artistic decisions, and the occasional lumps of bad writing, this is the thing that they need to address, in narrative and deal with, because it is genuinely, unequivocally not Trek to do that. ID even bases a chunk of character development around how NOT US this is. It’s not the kind of thing you can just hope people kind of ignore later either these days.

Well done for others in the thread, remembering the names of the extras we now call a cast....but sorry, TNG and particularly VOY were as diverse, if not more, than DSC. I am shakey on this though...outside of the US we don’t get given the Dulux colour chart of Diversity, (useful to both crazy sides of the debate! It’s probably Re-labelled from the Jim Crow colour chart of worthiness! I had no idea who Jim Crow was till these last couple of years....) which means Ash Tyler seems just a dude like me to a dude like me, more noticeable for his relaxed approach to facial grooming and his Everybody Loves Raymond voice. For a show that has so many voices talking about identity, there are very few identities available to the characters on DSC. Would like to see that improve. Also...was it really a positive that the ‘one white dude’ was killed? Really? I mean I saw an antagonist defeated, just another English actor going up in a fireball (we do that a lot in Hollywood.) but is there some positive subtext I am unaware of? I thought us progressive types were on the same team, and generally above suggesting a characters ethnicity should be considered a good reason to see them die on screen...still, I am sure someone on the other side of the fence punched the air when the ‘black gay guy’ died right? So it’s all good...
Sigh.
Does anyone remember when we used to be Star Trek fans?
*puts very small beaded car seat cover on balding head and goes to meet the ambassadors*
 
Writing fanfic doesn't make you a writer any more than uploading your home made sex tape makes you a porn star.

That’s..quite a lot on both counts these days I believe. See: Kardashians, Paris Hilton, sundry others, and of course, Fifty Shades of Grey and Mortal Instruments.
 
I will be honest. The corpse bomb is the biggest thing this show still needs to get over. It may be a few minutes in the pilot, but it is so so deeply wrong from many perspectives, that whatever my grr argh is over some of the really bad artistic decisions, and the occasional lumps of bad writing, this is the thing that they need to address, in narrative and deal with, because it is genuinely, unequivocally not Trek to do that. ID even bases a chunk of character development around how NOT US this is. It’s not the kind of thing you can just hope people kind of ignore later either these days
I very much agree, I was disappointed by the way that was included without comment and done by Georgiou, a character who is clearly being presented as a white hat goodie. It makes her earlier "we're Starfleet" rhetoric ring particularly hollow. On balance I think burying their gays was the worse plot decision, but they're both pretty bad.

Does anyone remember when we used to be Star Trek fans?
Star what?
 
I very much agree, I was disappointed by the way that was included without comment and done by Georgiou, a character who is clearly being presented as a white hat goodie. It makes her earlier "we're Starfleet" rhetoric ring particularly hollow. On balance I think burying their gays was the worse plot decision, but they're both pretty bad.


Star what?

Don’t worry, Culber is only mostly dead.
His Sharp facial grooming has secret healing properties. DSC is all about the beards, one way or another.
 
Hey!!! Cassandra Clare isn't just a fanfiction writer...she's the creator of said book series. Which is really, really good. As for 50 shades...don't compare me to whoever started those. I have never shipped a character, or written anything but quality writing. Feel free to repost sections you think are 'bad' from my stories here for analysis. I'll refute every single complaint.
 
I made the mistake of clicking that link. I didn't make ot past his demands that trump be assassinated.
oh me, oh my, I didn't even get that far.

Look, I thought we could at least agree that Pence would be a lot worse than Trump.
 
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