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STD: Only Marginally Better than The Final Frontier

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Great, the thread is still open. Didn't see that coming; nice to be positively surprised.

but do you feel upset???
Nah, I'm having fun.

Eeerr....you DO know that ST:V is considered the worst movie ever. Worst than STID, the movie that ripped off the Wrath of Khan. Worst that Star Trek: Insurrection. Worst than Star Trek: Generations.
As it turns out a lot of people have different opinions on stuff. Personally I kinda like STV but more for nostagia reasosn. I saw it as a kid and it was a sort of fun watch, even though not of great quality.

Are you being sarcastic???
I wonder that myself every ten posts. Even at my own posts :D

Me three: The Search for more STV Love. ;)
Me Four: The One With the Whales. I'm too lazy to think of a joke...

Do you REALLY want a series of Trek that makes as many canonical errors
Personally I found them to be all rather explainable but others have taken different approaches. Daniel sees Discovery as an alternate universe show; and he's a payed CBS plant.

blatant idiotic writing (Spore!!! Drives!!!)
From what I've heard the spore stuff is veeeery vaguely rooted on real concepts but stretcht to a point where they make a cool sci fi concept.

makes the main character the entire f**king focus of the series
Notsure why that's a bad thing per se.

as well as portraying her as a xenophobic
She has to overcome that. That's the point. She starts the war because she can't deal with Klingons and... well, you'lle see once you see the finale

She started a war, got court-martialed, lost her rank and gets hate from literally everyone she previously knew who's still alive. How's that a Mary Sue?

kills off half its supporting cast for plot twists
Like, one person.

sets up what could have been a very interesting storyline with Lorca, and then dumps it in the trash with the revelation that he's from the mirror universe
Yeah, fair point, the ruined that. But at least we might get Prime-Lorca in the future.

creates a situation where a major plot element of the new show completely invalidates a entire series (Voyager could have used the Spore Drive to get home in a single movie instalment)
I am certain they will get rid of the Spore Drive by the end of the show, permanently. I mean, the writers remembered to erase Burnham's mutiny account because it clashes with TOS I'm sure they won't forget the Spore Drive that, if it would become public knowledge, put a major wrench into the workings of Voyager.

The writers have clearly not watched enough Star Trek to get the meaning (or if they have they've completely missed the underlying meaning)
I disagree. Even in this admittedly darker show you can find classic Trek stuff; like the tardigrade being freed a few episodes in.

have invented things which aren't even f**king canonical in the universe before now
This is literally true for every new series, nay, every new episode after "The Cage".

Hell, on the note of the Klingons, you can't pass them off as a subspecies or a different religeon, because when they visit Kronos, there ARE no normal klingons or otherwise.
They visit on single location. I can see Qo'noS (as we trufans who have enough time to memorize the name of every Trek planet call it :D ) as being a divided/segregated society. Somewhere else the Augment Klingons are hanging around and the TNG Klingons are doing business elsewhere.

all the klingon ships from other houses in 'the battle at the binary stars' have the same design and the same coffin-coated exterior
I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

that they had no holodecks
Except for the one in TAS: "The Practical Joker" on the Enterprise.

and holodecks
If I recall correctly in the TOS episode "The Enterprise Incident" Kirk and Spock get form-fitting Romulan uniforms early on in the episode. Where exactly do you think they got them from? I mean, sure, maybe the Enterprise got someone who sews all the away mission stuff but I think it's easier to assume that 23rd century starfleet is able to replicate food and clothes.

IN DIALOUGE in Voyager
in a very casual conversation where Janeway also claims there were "Romulans hiding behind every nebula". She also says that "the technology we take for granted was still in its early stages" which I think fits nicely with the clothes and food only replicators and the holodecks that don't allow audible interaction with the holograms.

federation apperntly now commits war crimes (even today (a primitive time by Trek standards) using corpses as bombs is a major war crime.
Yeah, that was pretty shitty, but one of the participants is now dead and the other was court-martialed; maybe also for that.

apparently they don't have shuttlecraft on the Shengzou (there is literally no point to Burnham going out in a flying space suit other than to have a situation where the protagonist is alone).
Yes, apparantly they don't. Is that a bad thing?

Two: You want proof I'm a writer??? My fanfiction account is at https://www.fanfiction.net/u/6912772/
Oh, well, in that case.

Three: Who the hell said that the technical manuals were any less canon that STD???
The official Star Trek website: They list VGR, TOS, TNG, DS9, ENT, TAS and DSC as well as all the movies as canon.
 
Hey, now. ENT is cool and only squares and snowflakes don't like it. You nerds need to start Trippin' and get with the cool kids.
 
I am certain they will get rid of the Spore Drive by the end of the show, permanently. I mean, the writers remembered to erase Burnham's mutiny account because it clashes with TOS I'm sure they won't forget the Spore Drive that, if it would become public knowledge, put a major wrench into the workings of Voyager.

Not if they use my idea to go back and badly (very badly) dub over references to things like 'quantum slipstream drive' and 'coaxial warp' with some random person saying 'spore drive'. Hello collectors item special edition trek dvds :D
 
Wait. (*Checks to see if there are monetization possibilities*)

I stand corrected.
We from the offical CBS planting division would love to recruit you as one of our payed advertisers we don't disclose get payed. Just share how much pain you get from this thread because the show is sooo good and you can do what Daniel and Garth have done before you. Cash in!
 
We from the offical CBS planting division would love to recruit you as one of our payed advertisers we don't disclose get payed. Just share how much pain you get from this thread because the show is sooo good and you can do what Daniel and Garth have done before you. Cash in!

I cannot be bought.

But let me take a look at your proposal. Where do I sign?
 
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