Spoilers STD 1x03 Preview [and for the rest of the season]
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I mean one of the closed captioning options is 'Klingon'.
As usual for Netflix, they can't even get the English ones right, so I hold no faith in the Klingon ones.
The impression I get from reviewers who have seen the third episode is that it is more like what the series will be. The hero ship and many of the week to week characters haven't been seen yet. The scale and FX drop from the premiere to something more commensurate with a weekly tv series.
Episodes one and two are thus a somewhat expansive prologue and episode three more like a traditional pilot in some ways. Whether that was a good decision or not will be seen as it goes along.
Episodes one and two are thus a somewhat expansive prologue and episode three more like a traditional pilot in some ways. Whether that was a good decision or not will be seen as it goes along.
I guess what we're seeing, to make the popular BSG comparison, is a bit like the miniseries (sort of a pilot, but upscaled) and the episode '33', the true pilot of a weekly show.
Except here they've gone with only the lead and maximum two other characters carrying over. Brave decision, we'll see how it flies.
Except here they've gone with only the lead and maximum two other characters carrying over. Brave decision, we'll see how it flies.
Oh, and: They are hiding the ship!
Yeah, my wife just tweeted me exactly the same thing.
Naw. They hid their ship because it was ugly, right until the premiere epsiode, just as I called it back then. Now they are banking on people already being hooked. But my guess - the ship being hidden right untill the end of the first (two-part?) episode came quite true! Even though it didn't happen in a "reveal" during the episode but a tacked-on trailer at the end of the second episode
But yeah, they kept it hidden. Up untill the minute the show already aired. Which was yesterday. Just as I predicted many times they would do.
I wonder if what we have is essentially a case of - TVH/BatBS is (or was) Fuller's show, and everything else is Kurtzman's.
It was on loads of posters, it was all over their social media, it was in the opening titles released prior to airing....
I certainly knew what Discovery looked like in early summer.
I suspect there's some truth to that.
Which does give me some hope. It's always been my impression that he was the driving force for 09 over Orci. And it's still my favorite of the three.
The "hiding" was of the specific, finished shots of the final ship in-series. Not some drawn promotional material or concept art. You may argue they reveald it a day earlier, when they premiered the title sequence. But even that was in a 'artsy'-style.
The argument stands: They didn't show their main ship as the central element of the show during their promotion, right until after the first episode has aired.
Which was EXACTLY what I predicted. Down to the minutia of it.
Well it doesn't, because nobody was the least bit surprised to see the ship looking exactly how they'd seen it up til now. That's not hidden. If it was hidden, we'd have a thread goign by now called OMG SHIP REVEALED AND ITS AWESOME/HIDEOUS
Well, your argument was that they are hiding it because they don't believe in the design. I don't see how anything confirms that.
There were many arguments of "OMG ITS HIDEOUS", in fact so much so that the designer of it gave in to a facebook-battle on a picture of a toy of it.
And I stand by what I said: The producers weren't confident enough in the final design to show it people beforehand. They hoped to "bury" it under all the other reactions for the first episode. When the dust is settled.
Well, your argument was that they are hiding it because they don't believe in the design. I don't see how anything confirms that.
My argument was "they are hiding it in the promotional material because they don't believe in the design to be strong enough to stand on it's own to convince people." And that we'd only see it once the series has already started.
Which is EXACTLY what they did! 100% confirmed.
You'd be foolish if you thought they would hide the ship once the series started. How the fuck would they even do that?!?
Indeed, going back months. If it was hidden, that couldn't possibly have happened.
It's on the poster. It's on the Netflix title card. There's a whole thread on it on this very board with images of what turned out to be the final design going back to early May. Minus the cut-outs, we had a pretty decent idea in February of what it would look like.
Yeah, right, they were hiding it. Except when they didn't. As @cultcross is saying, we know what the ship looks like for a long time. How you are spinning this into “they were hiding it because the didn't like the design” is just beyond me. Completely nonsensical.
Jesus. You guys try to purposefully spin the words in my mouth.
They HID finished shots of the final design. Up until the moment they couldn't do anymore. THAT'S what I said the whole time, nothing more, nothing less. NO. FINISHED. CGI-shots. UNTIL THE PREMIERE.
That's it. That's what I called. That's what they did. They hid the ship. By just showing veeeery specific concept arts/drawings. But never the finalized in-series design. Up until the premiere, where they finally revealed it in a tacked-on trailer.
Compare that to, say, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT where the finalized main ship/station was a central piece of the marketing material, and in-series vfx-shots used to sell people on the series. THAT'S what they didn't do here. Nothing more. Nothing less. Exactly what I tryed to tell you people over months. But you didn't believe me. And now that it has happened exactly as I said it would, you try to spin I was saying something completely different the whole time (hiding the ship while the series is running? WTF are you smoking if you thought anyone would ever think that?)
No, I literally quoted them:
That is demonstrably false.
So the only thing you are claiming to have predicted is that there were not trailers released showing much footage of the Discovery, something plainly obvious to anyone who had watched them? OK, well done for spotting that.
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