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More Firefly?

@oktay , no need to share social media links with the same news all the time.....
Actually, what I wrote was about someone I saw on Twitter making anti-Woke comments regarding the same video. Even though I've personalized my Twitter Explore page, those comments still keep popping up. Also, I don't understand what kind of mindset those people have who say this show couldn't be made without Joss Whedon are in.

It's very strange that these kinds of show and movie franchises have different fan bases. And it's disgusting that Elon uses Twitter to promote far-right ideas.
 
Actually, what I wrote was about someone I saw on Twitter making anti-Woke comments regarding the same video. Even though I've personalized my Twitter Explore page, those comments still keep popping up. Also, I don't understand what kind of mindset those people have who say this show couldn't be made without Joss Whedon are in.

It's very strange that these kinds of show and movie franchises have different fan bases. And it's disgusting that Elon uses Twitter to promote far-right ideas.

Probably relates to the Twitter post you posted which simply restated the Deadline link that had already posted (twice, once by me, once by you). A post you appear to have since deleted.
 
As I understand it, the announcement is not that a new animated Firefly is happening, it's that they're developing one they hope someone will buy so they can actually make it. Sure, they have more pieces in place than, say, that Bakula Star Trek series some people seem to want. But the fact that they've announced this now without having a broadcast/streaming deal in place suggests to me that there's still a good chance that nothing will happen.

Firefly has a fervent cult. But it didn't have enough viewers to keep it on TV, and while the fandom grew enough that they decided to make a movie, the movie underperformed at the box office. If you're a top exec at Disney, for example, having just decided to walk away from the Doctor Who deal, are you going to be eager to take this risk? If you're at Netflix and remember the live action Cowboy Bebop, are you going to be sure that the audience will show up for this?

Basically... don't break out the champagne just yet. If it happens, cool, I'll watch it. But I'm keeping my expectations under control.
 
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From Reddit, just announced its an animated series bridging the gap between the series and Serenity.


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What I don't understand about this video is this: according to Deadline and similar sites, Fillion and 20th Century Animated Television will be collaborating on this project. But because of this video, many fans are wondering if this will be a fan-funded project. And of course, who will be the broadcaster of this show?
 
What I don't understand about this video is this: according to Deadline and similar sites, Fillion and 20th Century Animated Television will be collaborating on this project. But because of this video, many fans are wondering if this will be a fan-funded project. And of course, who will be the broadcaster of this show?

It seems pretty clear that they need some movement on social media to prove to the networks its worth picking up. No clue where you would be taking away that this is going to be crowdfunded.
 
It seems pretty clear that they need some movement on social media to prove to the networks its worth picking up. No clue where you would be taking away that this is going to be crowdfunded.
I didn’t make it up; I saw a comment like this on Twitter.
 
It seems pretty clear that they need some movement on social media to prove to the networks its worth picking up. No clue where you would be taking away that this is going to be crowdfunded.

I expect the crowdfunding noise is coming from past conversations, where Fillion was idly speculating on ways more Firefly might happen. One suggestion "back in t'day" was crowdfunding Fillion to buy the rights. Firefly fans are rabid, but in my experience not particularly good at separating "hmm, this is maybe an idea" from "oh, this is definitely happening." So I'd not be surprised if people are recirculating that old notion, and then other people are interpreting the speculation as a plan.

Anyway, I do agree that the reason for the hype and the noise is to show there's fan interest out there that has potential to become a real market. We're clearly a long way from something actually happening, though.
 
What I don't understand about this video is this: according to Deadline and similar sites, Fillion and 20th Century Animated Television will be collaborating on this project. But because of this video, many fans are wondering if this will be a fan-funded project. And of course, who will be the broadcaster of this show?
What this says to me: Fillion and the studio are developing this on spec, maybe taking it as far as a pilot, in hopes of attracting the interest of a network to commission a series. Disney+ would be the obvious buyer, as they and 20thCAT are all part of Disney conglomerate. The more I read about this, the more it feels like it's further from screens than Hulu's rejected Buffy pilot ever was, because that had a network and this Firefly project does not.
 
I didn’t make it up; I saw a comment like this on Twitter.

I didn't say you made it up - it was the generic You.

But the description on the video is as below, and I struggle to see how anyone could take that as a crowdfunder.

The word is out. To keep Firefly flying, we need a home. And for that, we need you. Like this post, comment on this post, repost this post. Tag a friend, tag an enemy, even tag a Reaver. Give us some "quantifiable analvtics" that we can use to convince folks that this is something people want.
 
Quoting myself for a sec...

If you're at Netflix and remember the live action Cowboy Bebop, are you going to be sure that the audience will show up for this?

Someone somewhere on the Internet must by now have said, we already have an animated Firefly, it's called Cowboy Bebop. After all, a few years ago people were saying, we already have a live action Cowboy Bebop, it's called Firefly.

Anyway, while you wait to see what comes of this, if you haven't seen the original anime Cowboy Bebop, get to it. The live action series isn't as bad as, say, the US remake of Life on Mars or the AMC remake of The Prisoner (but what could be?), but it's the anime you need to see.
 
I guess I don't fully understand why if 20thCF and Disney are behind this, why Disney+ wouldn't be an automatic venue to air it on? The "studio" and the "network" may be different entities but would Disney+ really let a Disney-owned property stream on, say, Netflix? Why give Netflix that potential influx of subscribers? Hell, Disney+ probably wants whatever it takes to bring in new viewers after losing some over the deal with Kimmel back in September.

And, come on, Disney is worth over $170B, they can't throw $5m-$10 at this? (That's .006% of their worth, change in the couch cushions.)

Thinking about it, other than to atleast get Wash and the general tension of the setting back with Simon and River being wanted, if setting it before  Serenity was necessary due to rights issues with Universal (who made the movie.)

And the animation house, what are they known for and what kind of animation do they do? I'm guessing it's created on computers (not hand drawn) but, what if they implement... AI? ;)

Be interesting to see what happens if this goes forward. But, hell, give me another 10-14 episodes and I'll be satisfied.
 
And the animation house, what are they known for and what kind of animation do they do? I'm guessing it's created on computers (not hand drawn) but, what if they implement... AI? ;)
ShadowMachine's website is just a splash page with two looping clips, and their YouTube page hasn't been updated in twelve years, but their Facebook page is fairly active, and they've got a decently filled out Wikipedia entry.

Their original specialty was stop-motion, which you may have seen in Robot Chicken and Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio adaptation, but they've also done 2D and 3D animation for BoJack Horseman, Tuca & Bertie, and Strange Planet, and several commercials. I do really wish they had a sizzle reel to link to, I've got a better web presence than these guys, though I suppose they're probably at the point where they don't need to be promoting publicly to get work.
 
I guess I don't fully understand why if 20thCF and Disney are behind this, why Disney+ wouldn't be an automatic venue to air it on? The "studio" and the "network" may be different entities but would Disney+ really let a Disney-owned property stream on, say, Netflix? Why give Netflix that potential influx of subscribers? Hell, Disney+ probably wants whatever it takes to bring in new viewers after losing some over the deal with Kimmel back in September.

And, come on, Disney is worth over $170B, they can't throw $5m-$10 at this? (That's .006% of their worth, change in the couch cushions.)

Thinking about it, other than to atleast get Wash and the general tension of the setting back with Simon and River being wanted, if setting it before  Serenity was necessary due to rights issues with Universal (who made the movie.)

And the animation house, what are they known for and what kind of animation do they do? I'm guessing it's created on computers (not hand drawn) but, what if they implement... AI? ;)

Be interesting to see what happens if this goes forward. But, hell, give me another 10-14 episodes and I'll be satisfied.
The Netflix series Nobody Wants This, starring Kristen Bell and Adam Brody, and the miniseries Vladimir, starring Rachel Weisz, which premiered a few days ago, are both produced directly by Disney's 20th Television division. In other words, Disney licenses some of these shows.
 
I'm really excited to hear this news, I was not expecting the annoucement to actually be anything this big. I was kind of hoping it would be after Serenity, but I can see where setting it between the last episode and Serenity is the most appealing place to set, since that way they have everyone together and can just pick right up where the show left off, and set up the movie. I was a little surprised to see there's only two months between the series and Serenity, I had always assumed there was a least a year or two at the minimum.
Perhaps the first season is a tight and intense timeline which ultimately leads to Inara's and Book's decisions to leave at the end. Of course, if they do seasons after Serenity, what does that mean for Alan Tudyk? Does start voicing a new character or revive Wash somehow (which I would be against).

Or they just ignore the two months math and fly as long as they want, slowly building up to  Serenity and then cross that juncture after several seasons.
From what I've seen online about them the Boom! comics set after Serenity introduced a "Wash-bot", maybe they could do the same thing in this if they go past Serenity.
My hopes:
1. Don’t dumb it down for a YA audience. We all know who this is for.
2. Don’t shy away from the violence seen in the series and movie.
3. Don’t lean into the comic adaptations too much. I want new material (I can budge a little on this point).
4 Keep true to the dialogue, including quick quips, bunk refences and a mix of English and Chinese.
Where are you getting the YA thing and the comics adaptations from? Was that mentioned somewhere in the original announcement?
Because just because it's animated doesn't mean they're going to tone anything down or change the target audience, there are tons and tons of adult animated series out there now, we're well past the days of animation only being for kids.
And shows like this adapting tie-ins is very, very rare, out of all of the dozens of shows I've watched with tie-ins, I only know of two times where they adapated tie-ins, Star Trek: TNG's Where No One Has Gone Before and Doctor Who's Human Nature/Family of Blood.
 
From what I've seen online about them the Boom! comics set after Serenity introduced a "Wash-bot", maybe they could do the same thing in this if they go past Serenity.
That sounds like a terrible idea. I much rather have Tudyk voice a new character, especially since Tudyk is a talented voice actor.
 
I guess I don't fully understand why if 20thCF and Disney are behind this, why Disney+ wouldn't be an automatic venue to air it on? The "studio" and the "network" may be different entities but would Disney+ really let a Disney-owned property stream on, say, Netflix? Why give Netflix that potential influx of subscribers? Hell, Disney+ probably wants whatever it takes to bring in new viewers after losing some over the deal with Kimmel back in September.

And, come on, Disney is worth over $170B, they can't throw $5m-$10 at this? (That's .006% of their worth, change in the couch cushions.)

Thinking about it, other than to atleast get Wash and the general tension of the setting back with Simon and River being wanted, if setting it before  Serenity was necessary due to rights issues with Universal (who made the movie.)

And the animation house, what are they known for and what kind of animation do they do? I'm guessing it's created on computers (not hand drawn) but, what if they implement... AI? ;)

Be interesting to see what happens if this goes forward. But, hell, give me another 10-14 episodes and I'll be satisfied.

Disney+ was hemorrhaging money like crazy and only started to get profitable in 2025 but it can still go down again, so they may be reluctant to finance a show that is a niche of a niche genre that was popular over 20 years ago for a short while.

As others have said this is Fillion and the gang using their popularity and the cult following of the show to hopefully garner enough interest outside the small cult circle to show a prospective studio/streaming service/network that a series could be financially viable. They are shooting their shot hoping it'll go viral and they have a good foundation with the cast returning and an animation studio willing to do it but the most important part s not there yet - who will pay for it and show it?

We'll see how this develops.
 
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