Trekyards are only calling it the PHOENIX Class because that's what Eaves original concept art labeled it as.
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For want of another name...and considering the Nebula-class Phoenix had its reputation somewhat soiled by Ben Maxwell...?
You know, I have to wonder about the politics within the Federation in general and within Starfleet in particular around that name now. From Zefram Cochrane to Ben Maxwell? (Should I take that question elsewhere?)
You know, I have to wonder about the politics within the Federation in general and within Starfleet in particular around that name now. From Zefram Cochrane to Ben Maxwell? (Should I take that question elsewhere?)
Definitely much wider than a RunAbout.
You can tell from the interior shots that it’s bigger than a Danube. Even if it’s not by much. It just never occurred to me that a Runabout would be the closest comparison rather than a Nova Class for example.
The Oberth is 120 meters long. Presumedly that length includes the pod on the bottom. So the Eleos is actually longer than the main body of the Oberth. Though the Oberth is still taller, not sure about width.
Per ILM’s scale chart for ST3 the Oberth is 120 meters long
Per ILM’s scale chart for ST3 the Oberth is 120 meters long
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And the Danube class RunAbout is 23.1 m x 14 m x 6 m (1 deck)
Eleos is ~119.x meters x ~64.9 meters and is about 4 decks talls
So the Eleos is quite a bit larger than a RunAbout.
Can’t speak for anyone else, but it was the mention of the Danube on the graphic shared a page or two ago that got me wondering.
I wondered about that comparison as well since you can't dock a shuttle onto a Danube.
In Star Trek Online, there’s a Phoenix-class capital ship and even a new Equinox class named in honor of the Nova-class vessel.
Which I really disliked them doing.
I didn't mind them naming a Class after the Reliant, it wasn't the original crew that did the the bad things with the ship.
Equinox? Really? 150 members of the federation, no other names of people, places, notable ships that aren't Human??
STO names almost all of their refits/redesigns after a notable ships of the class.
Also equinoxes happen on other planets, It's not just an Earth thing. Equinox is a very agnostic name.
I know what you’re saying about STO naming refits after notable ships of the class, but I also wonder how economical Janeway might’ve been about the truth about the Equinox to protect the reputation of the crew members. What they did was deplorable but desperate people do desperate things and all that.
She did demote the survivors down to crewmen. It would have been in her log, it would have to be a pretty convincing lie to cover that up.
I was gonna say perhaps she didn’t lie, just omitted a few key details. But a lie of omission is still a lie, as Picard himself once said. Who knows. Just another loose end they didn’t really get the chance to tie up when they returned home I guess.
I’d even have settled for a two parter that dealt with their return home at last. Endgame was a cracking episode but it would’ve been nice to see what happened with the Maquis crew members, Tom, if Harry was ever going to get a promotion and Seven dealing with some anti-Borg sentiments.
C’est la vie.
