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There are two things about SGA that really annoy me:
- They didn't make Sheppard Teyla's baby daddy, instead they created some random (and pretty dreary) character to knock her up,
- Woolsey taking command.
The trouble with having an SG1 sequel is that there's too much tech in the SG universe. There can't be the epic ground battles of the early SG seasons because Earth basically has Trek tech now.
It's one of the reasons the later seasons were weak. They weren't beating the aliens with machine guns. They had spaceships and transporters and needed the next alien win button to win.
It's one of the reasons the later seasons were weak. They weren't beating the aliens with machine guns. They had spaceships and transporters and needed the next alien win button to win.
I disagree about Teyla. For one thing it's such a cliche for the two principles to be in a will they/won't they relationship and when they tried it with O'Neill & Carter it just never felt quite right. Plus you run into the problem of eventually having to pay it off or break it off and most of the time that kills the dynamic whichever way you cut it.
I also feel like the character of Teyla never really worked all that well. Nothing against the actress at all, but as the show went on it became increasingly clear that the writers were struggling to know what to do with her, hence the addition of the much more interesting Ronon, and the late in the game "oh, she can mind meld with wraiths now!" plot thread.
Part of it was also because they never fully committed to the idea of her people (and you could make a drinking game out of how often she says "my people") living with the SG crew in the city, so when they abandoned that idea her reason for being there sort of evaporated. I mean with Teal'c you at least had the constant touchstone of his people being enslaved and actively fighting to free them. For Teyla, it never felt quite as immediate. Yes, the Wraith were a constant terror, but not quite the same dynamic as overturning a culture based on servitude.
It would have been different had the Wraith created a religion that had the natives of Pegasus offer up sacrifices instead of just having them as marauding predators harassing the herds...but then I suppose that might be a little *too* close to the Goa'uld.
And as for Woolsey: IIRC, that wasn't a choice so much as a necessity when Tapping decided to make a go of her new original show 'Sanctuary'.
Personally I thought Woolsey was a good choice; having a US military officer in charge of a multi-national scientific expedition was always going to be problematic and the writers were right to put a civilian in that role from day one. The only mistake they made with Weir was casting someone a little too young who wouldn't be happy in a role that would have them sitting out 90% of the really fun stuff. I don't blame Higginson for leaving, it must have started to get really boring after a while.
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I agree, one of the big problems with will they/won't they kind of dynamics is they try to draw it out too long.
None of the three options are great.
"They don't": Well then what were you stringing us along there for?
"They never decide": Now it seems you're just jerking us around and moving in circles.
"They do": This might be the least of evils. But it means you have to work harder to make the writing interesting which a lot of TV writers aren't up to, and even if they pull it off, it's not suspenseful. Or they might try some "Let's almost break up! No let's remember how much we love each other at the last minute!" like season 9 of The Office, which is stressful to watch because of all the investment you have in the relationship.
None of the three options are great.
"They don't": Well then what were you stringing us along there for?
"They never decide": Now it seems you're just jerking us around and moving in circles.
"They do": This might be the least of evils. But it means you have to work harder to make the writing interesting which a lot of TV writers aren't up to, and even if they pull it off, it's not suspenseful. Or they might try some "Let's almost break up! No let's remember how much we love each other at the last minute!" like season 9 of The Office, which is stressful to watch because of all the investment you have in the relationship.
I thought Woolsey was a better fit for Atlantis than Carter, even though I honestly can't remember much of what happened in season 4 and 5 (to the point that, for a long time, I forgot Carter was on the show). There was the episode where Rodney got in a fight with Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson, and the other episode where Rodney caught a cold and developed space-dementia. Oh! And there was the bit where everyone was upset about how Beckett was brought back to life because the producers had said "And it's not going to be some alternate universe timeline version or something" which everyone interpreted to be "It will be the original Beckett" even though they never said it wouldn't be a clone. Honestly, I don't even understand why they wrote it that way. It would've been just as easy to have had Beckett cloned and switched at the top of season 3, and it was the clone that blew up. Either way, the returned Beckett doesn't remember the same number of episodes, but it feels cleaner from an ontological perspective. Or mix it up! Keep it ambiguous whether the clone or the original survived. That's some hoary old thinky sci-fi stuff.
Cough, cough, the Harsesis child, cough.
Cough, cough, the Harsesis child, cough.
Not yet, but that's on my list to get.
Got hooked on SG-1, really liked Atlantis, LOVED Universe. Really chapped my hide when they axed it!
I've got them and read 3 of them. They're not bad. Nice worldbuilding.
I don't know if I necessarily would have gotten her together with Sheppard at that point, but I do agree it was a bit strange the way her baby daddy just kind of popped up out of nowhere. I understand their options were a bit limited once they decided to write Rachel Luttrell's pregnancy into the show, but still think they could have handled it all better.
I actually liked Woolsey in charge, it's always fun when you suddenly throw a character into the mix doesn't always get along with everyone else.
The Beckett thing was weird to me. First, killing off a character in such a weird way. Then, not sticking by their creative decision and caving into fan outcry.
Not only did they do something dumb, they caved in and let the vocal fans backseat screenwrite.
Not only did they do something dumb, they caved in and let the vocal fans backseat screenwrite.
Was there fan outcry? I watched that show back in the days where I wasn’t online frequently.
All I remember is that in the UK, they aired it months before America got it (with Canada being the only country that got it first) and so there wasn’t any talk about it online.
I remember when Daniel Jackson died, I went on online trying to find if it was a permanent thing and no one was discussing it.
All I remember is that in the UK, they aired it months before America got it (with Canada being the only country that got it first) and so there wasn’t any talk about it online.
I remember when Daniel Jackson died, I went on online trying to find if it was a permanent thing and no one was discussing it.
The problem the show had was that they didn't know what to do with her character. The majority of the time she was absent and Sheppard was shown to be in command. By the end of the scene her leaving was like "Okay. She was never really there anyways. Moving on.
i think that was intentional though since the reason she was in it in the first place was that her contract (like the rest) still had one season of Stargate SG-1 on it. Since that was randomly canceled she opted rather than to be bought out of her contract to do one season of Atlantis part time.
Some fans did a jokey protest outside the studio and a producer came out to meet them dressed in a black suit.
https://www.upi.com/News_Photos/vie...PROTEST-DEATH-OF-DR-CARSON-BECKETT-CHARACTER/
Apparently Joe Flannigan tried to buy/ rent the SGA name.
