• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Starfleet Academy: The Gemini Agent

I've read the first one, The Delta Anomaly. I enjoyed it, but I can see why others might not. It's written by a non-Trekkie (by which I mean somebody ignorant of Trek minutae, not a hater), and it shows.

Laptops and flash drives, rape gangs in 23rd century San Fransisco and the Ferengi having a slave race whom they forbid from speaking. If any of these send you into a nerd rage, give it a miss.

Otherwise it's a fun, light read. The characterizations seemed fine to me and I thought they put an interesting spin on a very well known Trek adversary.

I definitely plan on reading the rest, but they're not a priority buy.
 
all so the ferengi were discovered by archer and the nx enterprise crew.

remmber. to quote spock
 
all so the ferengi were discovered by archer and the nx enterprise crew.

remmber. to quote spock
Where, cleverly :rolleyes:, they weren't named.

IIRC, in the Prime universe official first contact between the Federation and the Ferengi occurred in 2360 or something close as mentioned in the Encounter at Farpoint novelization. Though I'm sure someone wiser and better informed could confirm or deny my recollection. :)
 
IIRC, in the Prime universe official first contact between the Federation and the Ferengi occurred in 2360 or something close as mentioned in the Encounter at Farpoint novelization. Though I'm sure someone wiser and better informed could confirm or deny my recollection. :)

Information from novelizations doesn't count if it's superseded by canon. Official first contact with the Ferengi occurred in TNG: "The Last Outpost" in early 2364. There had been indirect or unofficial contacts before, and SCE: Home Fires implies that some humans on the fringes of the Federation traded with the Ferengi prior to that date (though I think I suggested in The Buried Age that it was done through intermediaries), but the Federation didn't know what the Ferengi looked like until "The Last Outpost" (which is why they didn't identify the Ferengi with that unnamed big-eared race that hijacked Archer's ship once a long time before).
 
IIRC, in the Prime universe official first contact between the Federation and the Ferengi occurred in 2360 or something close as mentioned in the Encounter at Farpoint novelization. Though I'm sure someone wiser and better informed could confirm or deny my recollection. :)

Information from novelizations doesn't count if it's superseded by canon. Official first contact with the Ferengi occurred in TNG: "The Last Outpost" in early 2364. There had been indirect or unofficial contacts before, and SCE: Home Fires implies that some humans on the fringes of the Federation traded with the Ferengi prior to that date (though I think I suggested in The Buried Age that it was done through intermediaries), but the Federation didn't know what the Ferengi looked like until "The Last Outpost" (which is why they didn't identify the Ferengi with that unnamed big-eared race that hijacked Archer's ship once a long time before).
You're right, it appears I had the information completely wrong anyway.

According to the Encounter at Farpoint novelization, Picard states that he has seen the Ferengi operate for the past 25 years (2364-25 = 2349), although it goes on to say that no face-to-face meeting with Humans (i.e. official first contact) had yet taken place. The Federation first suspected the existence of the Ferengi Alliance 54 years earlier (2310) after entering an unexplored quadrant. Over those years, the Feds encountered many worlds that had been affected by the Ferengi.

So the novelization appears not to contradict any canon information. Picard's statement that he has seen the Ferengi operate for 25 years simply means that he has visited worlds affected by the Ferengi or had heard many of the rumors about them, which doesn't contradict "The Battle", because he didn't know it was a Ferengi vessel until that very episode. It appears that the Ferengi were like the Dominion in DS9 Season 2, although rumors of the Ferengi menace turned out to be bull.

Sorry for the infodump, but I found it all rather interesting. :)
 
Last edited:
FWIW, Dave Stern's always sneakily mentioning the Ferengi (one time the "Verengi") in his Enterprise novels. He also gave Pike's Enterprise a Ferengi database in Children of Kings. Maybe he saw the ENT Ferengi appearence as a straight up retcon?
 
FWIW, Dave Stern's always sneakily mentioning the Ferengi (one time the "Verengi") in his Enterprise novels. He also gave Pike's Enterprise a Ferengi database in Children of Kings. Maybe he saw the ENT Ferengi appearence as a straight up retcon?
I forgot about the reference in The Children of Kings. Thankfully, that novel contradicts what had been established before so much that it exists in its own "Myriad Universe", neither existing in the Prime Universe nor the Trek 2009 timeline. A bastard child if you will. :lol:
 
I finished the novel yesterday and sort of enjoyed it. I miss the innocence of the old DS9/TNG young adult novels (at one point, McCoy jokes that Kirk may have been looking up porn) and as such don't think it is really appropriate for young readers. I liked the DS9 and TNG references (the Andorian genders from the DS9 relaunch even get a mention! :techman:) and thought the author captured the relationship between Spock and Uhura very well.
 
I bet Cadet Worf looked up porn too.

But IIRC, those books were aimed younger than these. Those were tween and these teen, or somesuch.
 
I think violent porn was probably baned by the Federation.

Shouldnt porn be outlawed in a utopistic society?

Or completly free?
 
I think violent porn was probably baned by the Federation.

Shouldnt porn be outlawed in a utopistic society?

Or completly free?

Of course it shouldn't be outlawed. That's censorship. A free society puts limits on what people can actually do to other people, but none on what they're allowed to imagine.

Besides, presumably the Federation is healthier than our society and wouldn't have Americans' bizarre, sick notion that sex is somehow worse than violence. So if they allow holodeck simulations of violent detective stories or Westerns, there's no reason they'd censor sexually-themed material.
 
The EMH suggests holoporn to Vorik when he's undergoing pon farr, IIRC.

More than that, he creates a holographic sex partner for Vorik, and Vorik actually agrees to try it, and it works. And the way Picardo plays the Doctor's enthusiasm at his holo-pimping efforts is hilarious.
 
Don't forget about Vulcan Love Slave, I have a very strong feeling that's probably not family friendly entertainment.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top