The trailers for Beyond were hot garbage. Based on those you'd think it would be the worst Trek film ever produced.
Thankfully I wasn't swayed by the advertising. Those trailers did the movie NO justice.
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Thankfully I wasn't swayed by the advertising. Those trailers did the movie NO justice.
Oh, look, that link also includes a more traditional looking (for Star Trek) cast photo rather than the "Oh they fawkin" dogpile on the grass from a few weeks ago everyone loved around here.
Indeed.
Advertising is about as useful but it's deceptive by its nature. So, I say watch the show and decide for yourself.
And, no, I don't care if Trek succeeds or fails. I have no financial stake in that.
So far, the modern era of Star Trek has had 216 entries in 8 years with a minimum of 36 more to come. That is success by any reasonable standard. Especially for a cable franchise.I just want Trek to succeed, what's so wrong about that?
As a comparison, the Disney+ MCU (episodes of series plus specials) has had only 135 entries.
Admittedly only across five years, but still.
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Not to mention the ones that aired after opening weekend gave away the plot twist.
Before then even. I saw commercial on TV just before I left my house to see Beyond on opening day which gave away the twist.Not to mention the ones that aired after opening weekend gave away the plot twist.
You and I weren't swayed by the trailers, which isn't the point.
The general audience avoided the movie and put Trek as a movie franchise on ice for a decade now, that's the point.
Not everything has to be about a personal financial stake.
I personally wanted the Kelvin Timeline to have a proper ending and it never got that.
Nobody in the general audience lost money on it, but the KT died a premature death.
216 entries in 8 years around 80% of which has already been forgotten and 70% of which were prematurely cancelled anyways.
Yeah, my days of not taking what you post seriously are definitely coming to a middle.
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74% of all statistics are made up.
100% of the stats from this statement are also made up.
I want more Kelvin films too. Didn't happen. That's ok.
Amazing - I've never seen goalposts moved that fast and that incompetently before.
Yes, I'm still mildly annoyed by that even now. No warning, just BOOM. Huge last-act spoiler in the middle of a TV spot.
It's the typical argument of "newer Trek is not as good as old Trek because reasons."
The competition game is painful at this point. It's middle school level nonsense of "my dad can beat up your dad" style with no real way to compare because streaming and broadcast television are two completely different animals. Neither is like the other and that should be expected!
Anything to back this up? I don't necessarily disagree, I just wonder if there's anything concrete to support it.
I think the realities of streaming production basically assured that none of the new shows would ever attain TOS/TNG levels of cultural relevance - both those series thrived in syndication and existed (and continue to exist) as an omnipresent background presence, whereas streaming shows are by design built around big "moments", serialised arcs designed to stop people cancelling subscriptions, and success is measured by subscriber count spikes, appearing in top ten weekly/monthly data, etc, which obviously doesn't lend itself to seeping into the popular consciousness in the way TOS and TNG were able to do.
That's not to excuse the failings of the streaming shows or suggest that they couldn't have landed much more successfully if they were better, but I think the prospect of them settling in popular culture in the way TOS/TNG did was always a non-starter no matter how good they were just because of how TV works now.
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I would say this is more a function of the limited choices people had at the time to watch. It was watch what the few channels offered, go to a theatre, or rent a film. And renting a film wasn't a thing when TOS was on the air.
We're past the time, where everyone in the office is watching a handful of programs and discussing them. That's not really going on anymore. Everybody is watching their own thing. The conversation is pretty much dead outside of the Internet. Folks at work are rarely talking about what they're watching outside of sports, which seems like the only event TV now. Scripted has left the room. How can you build a cultural cache when folks are watching all sorts of stuff, and nobody in person is really discussing it?
My latest conversations have been telling people about old shows to watch. I know some folks that are finally watching the 12 Monkeys series. It came out a very long time ago.
Now, you have to make sure your demographic matches the streaming content too.
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