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Let That Be Your Last Battlefield would like a word.
Pretty small “we”. (And it ain’t “your” Trek, unless you have substantial shares in Paramount maybe?)
I imagine they will continue with the Klingorc design but perhaps a little toned down. If it's the 32nd century it won't impact any other Trek series made so doesn't really matter at this stage. SNW and any 25th century set series will likely have the traditional Worf type design.
If anything, Shatner was subtle..
I have my own issues with DISCO (mostly story, arc, and pacing), but let me try to address those 4 points you mention.
IDIC - While I certainly have issues with DISCO, celebrating IDIC and diversity is definitely NOT one of them. DISCO takes the top spot in terms of representation. IDIC is most certainly represented here.
Prime Directive - The Prime Directive has come up, and has been used as a main point a couple times. (Like in "New Eden") The strictly serial nature of the series makes it tricky to use the Prime Directive as a main plot point, but it isn't absent.
Exploration, diplomacy, science - I will agree that a lot of the science in the 32nd century seems more like magic than science, but I think that's a result of over a millennium of advances past where we are now. Think of Arthur C. Clarke's law. Diplomacy: we have a (mostly) unified Vulcan/Romulan society, we have an attempt to bring back the Federation with dialogue and assistance, and the season 4 threat ends with basically both parties mutually understanding each other through diplomacy. Exploration: I will admit, this is somewhat absent from the show but it's because each season is so strictly arc driven that it doesn't give any room to breathe and just explore. So I can't defend DISCO much on this one.
Stories that make you think - While there are a lot of episodes that can seem preachy or in your face, how's that any different than TNG with the seemingly endless preaching, particularly season 5? (And I am a big TNG fan... it's why I became a science fiction fan to begin with.)
In short, DISCO is definitely in the bottom end of ST shows for me, but it definitely has the spirit of STAR TREK in it, and is a good addition to the franchise.
And if even I can defend the show, the points you bring up don't really hold up well under scrutiny.
Yes, yes it is, as multiple posters have shared how Discovery has impacted them directly from the sharing of managing real world grief, trauma and loss.
Don't speak for me, friend.
1000% agree with all points raised. The idea that Discovery is not hitting "deep" like past Trek is pure nonsense. The same was thrown at the Kelvin Trek and shows a lack of willingness to pay attention, rather than a lack of depth on the part of the writers.
The problem with 32nd century is this--the most hype right now is around the 25th century. Picard, Lower Decks, and Prodigy are all set there. By keeping Discovery's later seasons in the prime timeline and setting another show in the 32nd century, the more they do in that show, the less options writers have in the 25th century.
This is also a problem for that other star franchise. Right now, Mandalorian is losing viewers and the show feels like it's just treading water until the sequel trilogy. It's not a position any show creatively should be in.
This is also a problem for that other star franchise. Right now, Mandalorian is losing viewers and the show feels like it's just treading water until the sequel trilogy. It's not a position any show creatively should be in.
I do believe, as many have argued, that restraints make for good art, not bad.
ENT season 4 is a great example. Their budget was slashed in half. Their answer?
A season full of mini-arcs that helped spread episode costs evenly, and told great stories without dragging them out unnecessarily. (I'm looking at you, current era season long arcs.)
loc, do you like shows about officers in skants?
if so..I have a petition I am working on
If you read this post in Peter Graves' voice it's so, so much funnier...
It's Latin for "Stop Loving Stupidity". He thinks he's clever.
Ha! I’d like to have a word with your latin teacher…
Luve Stupis sucked when I saw them in concert. Mostly Coldplay covers for some reason.
I think even within its narrower scope Discovery has done a decent job with exploration. There was the planet Pahvo in the first season, New Eden, the Sphere and visiting the mycelial universe in the second, the whole encounter with the 10-C in the fourth. Even the third was essentially exploring the future of the 32nd century and learning about what had come to be.
Forgive me for not having an extensive knowledge of dead languages used on pointless, asinine campaigns that will amount to absolutely nothing. Upon further review, I believe it's "stop fooling around". Which is just as dumb.
I had Latin and I didn't follow it.
It's just a dumb slogan. There are more significant problems out there to focus on.
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