Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion

Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by Commander Richard, Dec 13, 2019.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    5.8%
  2. A

    11.7%
  3. A-

    15.0%
  4. B+

    10.7%
  5. B

    13.6%
  6. B-

    7.3%
  7. C+

    9.2%
  8. C

    7.3%
  9. C-

    5.3%
  10. D+

    2.4%
  11. D

    4.4%
  12. D-

    2.4%
  13. F

    4.9%
  1. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I tried to post the Pulp Fiction watch story but the video was giving me fits. Ah well. ;)
     
  2. Turtletrekker

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  3. Campe

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    :rofl::guffaw:

    Sitting in a restaurant waiting for my wife and in-laws. I literally guffawed! The people next to me looked at me funny.

    Worth it. :)
     
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    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    I don't think we did? It was probably a Sunday morning show, but I can't remember for sure.
     
  5. Noname Given

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    Then don't go to midnight showings.:nyah:;)
     
  6. cooleddie74

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  8. yotsuya

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    I have seen it twice and as a 42 year Star Wars fan, I loved it. I found it enhanced many things about the PT and OT without detracting from any of the previous 8 episodes.
     
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  9. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

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    You're assuming that he didn't have contingency plans in place that ultimately became unnecessary. Which maybe he didn't, I dunno...but he very well might have. :)
     
  10. Campe

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    Well, of course the writers would have given them a contingency plan... if they needed one. ;)

    Marvel is rebooting their main Star Wars line in early 2020 to cover the period between ESB and ROTJ. I wonder if they’ll tackle this point at the end of the series.
     
  11. Pubert

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    It’s kind of sad that a Star Wars film can’t bring in money like other films such as avengers. These last three new ones were bad characterization wise, treated the legacy characters badly and copied to much from the originals. More Death Stars. Really? Lol
     
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  13. Crewman6

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    I can't think of a single movie like the one you describe that was actually any good.
     
  14. thribs

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    Still think the name of this movie is wrong. Should have been called Rise of the Sith. That way it goes better with the 3rd movies of the trilogies.

    Revenge of the Sith
    Return of the Jedi
    Rise of the Sith
     
  15. thribs

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    Gotta have a R word as well. Episode XII should be called, The Reign of the Jedi. :)
     
  16. Mach5

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  17. Maurice

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    If they really wanted to get super film nerdy they could have had the old woman seen at the end be Camie Marstrap, the character played by Koo Stark at Anchorhead and cut from the final version of the original Star Wars.

    Enjoyed the main cast. Enjoyed the banter. Enjoyed seeing Luke. Wish I'd enjoyed seeing Leia more but her part was so insignificant (for obvious reasons) and her dialog so vague and nonspecific it really felt like what it was: discarded footage (not quite Bela Lugosi in Plan 9 From Outer Space, but in the same vein). CGI young Leia is as creepy as in Rogue One.

    The moment when it looks like Rey's killed Chewie is great, but the reveal that he's ok is too quick so there's no moment of relief to be had.

    The one moment that got to me was seeing Chewie break down when he learns about Leia.

    New characters were meh throwaways that just left less screentime to the characters were are invested in. Oh look, a faceless woman for Poe to flirt with. Oh look, a new character and her mates who are basically more Finns and just as poorly realized.

    I didn't need to see Han again, especially boring Kylo-memory Han.

    As to the story, Star Wars films tend to be paper thin, but this movie is just a screenwriting mess.

    Palpatine...just such a last-minute Hail Mary Pass to try to patch the Snoke hole and a desperate play to tie the beginning of this ennealogy to the end. Palatine's got a fleet bigger and badder than The First Order's, so why does he need them at all? He doesn't. He just wants Rey dead.,..until he doesn't.

    Hyperspace skips that TIE fighters can follow, and each jump takes you to a planet and never into empty space. Yeah.

    They try to add too many things which end up as throwaways because there's no time to develop them, especially given how much time is chewed up with Rey–Kylo duels.

    Why does Palpatine send an alert out to the Galaxy announcing he's baaack instead of just trying to lure Kylo Ren? I know his ego is big, but, sure, monologue your plans, because that always works out.

    Convenient Lando is found conveniently.

    New droid D-0 is there to sell toys. That's it.

    Too. Many. Planets.

    So how does one crew a bazillion star destroyers hidden on an inaccessible planet? Or did I miss something?

    Speaking of the Star Destroyers, they're SPACE SHIPS and they have to be guided straight UP off a planet? WTH?

    So, wait, you need these Sith gyroscopes to find planet Exgoogle, so what were the coordinates on the knife Threepio had to translate for? The location of the other gyroscope? So it's a map to a map? Ugh.

    Okay, so the Falcon's landing gear is out...so does that mean all its landing systems are out, including the things that let it gently set down? Must be because otherwise why the skid-crash?

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    has always been rather silly, but a Sith Blade that ends up being a cutout outline of Death Star wreckage takes the cake, especially since such a thing would only work from one one specific angle. Maybe there's only one piece of land in sight of this monstrous wreck?

    Missed opportunity when Rey stabs Kylo, as they could have played that up as moment where she acted in anger and channeled a bit of the dark side, then atoned for it by using the light side to heal him, thus helping affect his turn.

    Space horses riding on space ships. Ummm. Stupid attempt to rationalize this with "jam their speeders" or whatever, but since when has any starship jammed small craft before? Any why would only speeders be susceptible? And why would a capital ship have such a specific ability?

    Lots of "ughs" in my audience at the Rey–Kylo smooch.
     
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  18. Tosk

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    Yeah, it wouldn't have bugged me as much if Rey hadn't thought to look for One-Eyed Willy's treasure while standing in exactly the right spot purely by chance.

    If they really needed to justify it, a "this is all we have" from the good guys would have worked better. But then they couldn't save the Big Surprise™ when they come pouring out. ...Except it was already in the trailer anyway.

    And they were kept literally buried in the ground? I guess that's one way to hide them. Some jerk already used the "hide a starship under water" idea so JJ wasn't able to go with that one here. ;)
     
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  20. cooleddie74

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    Yeah, her feminist agenda screams so loudly in The Mandalorian where there've been a grand total of perhaps three heroic female supporting characters we learned the names of and every episode is mostly dudes and droids shooting at things or actually shooting things.