Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion

Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by Commander Richard, Dec 13, 2019.

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Grade the movie...

  1. A+

    6.2%
  2. A

    11.8%
  3. A-

    15.4%
  4. B+

    11.3%
  5. B

    14.4%
  6. B-

    6.2%
  7. C+

    9.2%
  8. C

    6.7%
  9. C-

    5.1%
  10. D+

    2.6%
  11. D

    4.6%
  12. D-

    2.1%
  13. F

    4.6%
  1. ichab

    ichab Commodore Commodore

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    I don't get that either. IMO, a stereotypical black character is someone like J.J Walker. Finn was a fully realized character without any of the stereotypical traits that Hollywood has a tendency to do.
     
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  2. BillJ

    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    Yet, somehow, every writer and director of the sequel trilogy was male...
     
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  3. publiusr

    publiusr Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I actually liked this film better than ROTJ, ship wise.

    a thimble full of zero point energy could do that.


    Just. turn. the. ship. over.

    Some parts of DS might have had their own sub systems--some gravity fields intact allowing things to float down
    The wreckage seemed to have an influence on the tides.

    I loved the Z'ha'dum-like Sith planet

    I don't think we have seen the end of the emperor. I couldn't help but think "now the Star Wars galaxy is ready for the Vong..."

    I actually had an evil smile on my face when he lit up the resistance forces.

    Priceless

    I would rank this film equal to the original Star Wars movies.

    Things to look for
    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Vergence This remains at Exegol

     
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  4. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Admiral Admiral

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    Now, let's not bring facts in to this discussion.
     
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  5. cooleddie74

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    There are people who are convinced that childhood vaccinations cause autism and that the planes on 9/11 had no passengers in them. Being convinced of and feeling strongly about something mean nothing all by themselves.
     
  6. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Living in a post-fact world has become problematic.
     
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  7. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You find a woman, give her a star wars movie, and then remind her that she is representing her gender, in the face of the entire world and all of history.

    The only sane reply to that ridiculous supposition is "I'm still getiing paid, right?"
     
  8. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    A feminist agenda would be Rey getting equal pay for her role in the Resistance and characters like Holdo and Lt. Connix not committing suicide or getting short shrift with little screentime or anything to do. See? Theory Fail.
     
  9. Noname Given

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    Han Solo made perfect sense. Kylo Ren "turned' ultimately when he killed his father, and as he was having doubts/a change of heart, he still felt that he'd done unforgivable acts; the major one for him being patricide - so who better than Han Solo to show up (memory or not) to say he is still salvageable and can be forgiven if he wants it.
     
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  10. BillJ

    BillJ History's Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    I wonder if Leia was Force-projecting that into his head?
     
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  11. Xerxes82

    Xerxes82 Commander Red Shirt

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    More than that, Ben's whole thing is rejecting his heroes and family figures. He literally kills Han because he loves him and doesn't know how to stop despite all the ways in which his dad failed him (which he sees as a weakness). I'm convinced that part of the reason he's so into his grandfather is because Vader's story is already complete. His grandfather can't disappoint him by failing to live up to the hype. (All of which is probably just an externalization of Ben's own terrible fear of failure. The crushing weight of the expectations he's put on himself as an heir to Skywalker and the son of Rebel heroes.) In order to bring Ben back to the light, Ben needs to not only be forgiven for what he's done, but to heal the rift between himself and the people that he's been pushing away. Vader doesn't do that. Han does.
     
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  12. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    That's one of my theories about what we saw.
     
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  13. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They're all getting paid with room and board.

    Slavery?

    The boxes of cash they gave Han Solo for rescuing Princess Leia, so they could have paid everyone for a little while, if Han hadn't been so greedy... Although maybe that's why she married him? To get her 10 hope chests of cheddar back?

    During the American Civil War, the continental army was trying to pay for things like food and lodging with scripts that wouldn't be legal tender until after Britain lost the war.

    Its possible that the Rebellion started using New Republic currency before the Old Republic turned into the empire.
     
  14. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    With their need to follow every irder KK had. Rian put her politics in the film .. and was given a trilogy
     
  15. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    Imagine if they took a more realistic approach to Back to the Future. A young man travels back in time and endangers his whole existence. The moviebshould have had long, artistic scenes of Marty in Doc's mantion in a fetal position wondering if he will survive. Best Picture for sure.

    See, Star Wars was aa pulp sci fi adventure about heroes and villains, excitement and courage. It knew what film it was teting to be. Apparently.. you didnt get the memo.

    It's onky in these said times where people are obsessed with pathos and their endless contunity in long stories and trying to see if it all makes sense that you'd even bring that up, fully missing the point of the film.
     
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  16. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Marty McFly was too dumb to under stand how much trouble he was in.
     
  17. Flying Spaghetti Monster

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    My point is that the filmmakers were not makong a treatise on existence and existialism even though it could have won them points with the Acandemy. They were making a relatable romantic and witty comedy with a dash of sci fi that would appeal to people who want to have a good time
     
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  18. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    In the comics, months after he got back, Marty started to notice the little differences in the new timeline, so he was spiralling, going through family photo albums to lock down more decrepensies.

    Dumb.
     
  19. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I hope, with every fiber of my being, that we have.

    I wasn't exactly a hundred percent in love with the idea of bringing him back for THIS film...
     
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    Honestly, I've read that it WAS going to be Leia in that scene using the Force to communicate; but given the circumstances, JJ went with what we saw.
     
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