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Star Wars:The Clone Wars S3......so far
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I'd like to think that Ahsoka survives. Ahsoka's death doesn't work for me because Anakin is not portrayed as someone mourning a very recent death. I would think that Ahsoka would have driven him over the edge, especially coming after his mother's death.
I hope they do an Order 66/Post-ROTJ episode. Not just the fate of Ahsoka but the fafe of Rex too. My idea is that Rex stays loyal to the Republic and Cody (who we see falls in line with the rest of the clones during Order 66) confront each other in the end. It would be an interesting change. Anakin's clone remains loyal to the Republic while Obi-Wan's is loyal to the Empire.
I hope they do an Order 66/Post-ROTJ episode. Not just the fate of Ahsoka but the fafe of Rex too. My idea is that Rex stays loyal to the Republic and Cody (who we see falls in line with the rest of the clones during Order 66) confront each other in the end. It would be an interesting change. Anakin's clone remains loyal to the Republic while Obi-Wan's is loyal to the Empire.
I could see Ahsoka's death being the reason for his fall to the dark side (moreso than anything involving Padme) because he's been expected to sacrifice everything to the Republic, which he increasingly realizes isn't worth the lives being sacrificed for it (especially if we see more evidence in the series of the many ways in which it isn't worth it) and then when Ahsoka becomes the next victim, he just loses it. If he feels Ahsoka was worth more than the Republic, then he'd switch sides in revenge to punish the Republic he blames for Ahsoka's death.
And that plotline still works if Ahsoka isn't dead, but falls to the dark side, is considered irretrievably lost, and Anakin is assigned to kill her. He'd certainly rebel at that, as the last straw. It wouldn't contradict ROTS if we assume the stuff with Padme was just the last straw after the last straw.
And that plotline still works if Ahsoka isn't dead, but falls to the dark side, is considered irretrievably lost, and Anakin is assigned to kill her. He'd certainly rebel at that, as the last straw. It wouldn't contradict ROTS if we assume the stuff with Padme was just the last straw after the last straw.
Ideally the show would end with Ahsoka becoming one of the Younglings' teachers at the temple. But I doubt Lucas would permit something that dark and have Anakin murder his own Padawan.
I'm almost to the dreaded S3 episodes! Fortunately I've been following along here so I'm braced for them to be garbage.
Ahsoka might fall to the dark side or be killed at the end of the series, but I'm rooting for Door Number Three: Anakin deliberately protects her from Order 33 because as inhuman as he's become, he still cannot just throw her to the wolves. Score one for attachment!
We might get some pussyfooting around with Ahsoka and the dark side before the end. Seeing the process of a Jedi falling before Anakin does would be enlightening and a good setup for what happens with Anakin - it would be good to really see what's at stake and not just imagine it.
If Ahsoka is a dark side Padawan (assuming such a thing exists) by the end of the series, that might also explain her survival. And if she does survive, that would make a great segue into the ROTS-ANH interstitial series that was supposed to be live action but won't be now.
I see no reason why the animated series should stop with ROTS. Let's carry it beyond, with Ahsoka as the main character, either one of the few surviving Jedi on the run, or even more interestingly, if she manages to get out of the clutches of the dark side.
^ So is Ventress, if it comes to that. Did you see the deleted scene in which she kisses a clone trooper that she'd just run through with her lightsaber? Not sure how Freud would read that, but I imagine an evening with her would be anything but dull.
That girl is a fah-REEK.Is it just me, or is there something going on between her and Obi-Wan, at least on a subliminal level?
I can't see Anakin sparing Ashoka from Order 66. I mean even if he tried, which I could see him actually doing, Ashoka would provoke him into a fight IMO. Or she would eventually meet him in battle. Having her be MIA by the end of the series is a viable option that keeps her in the game for an eventual show down on down the road. However, I would like to see (unfortunately) Ashoka bite the big one and her death unleash another explosion of dark side anger in Anakin like what happened to the Sandpeople in AOTC.
I can't see Ashoka working as a dark side Padawan (though I think she has dark side potential, being impulsive, reckless, and all), but I wonder if the Force Unleashed as sort of mined the well by establishing Marek as Vader's secret apprentice?
I do think there is something a little between Ventress and Obi Wan. It was even in the comics, but I always got the sense that it was more of Ventress trying to prove herself worthy of being a Sith by getting rid of Obi Wan and he kept making it difficult for her. Not sure about the sexual subtext in the Clone Wars series, because I haven't watched all the Ventress episodes. Perhaps it is telling that the last chronological Ventress v. Obi Wan comic book arc was called "Obsession".
Yes, agreed and I don't see Lucas murdering a character geared to the younger part of the audience. If Lucas couldn't bring himself to kill off Jar Jar, he isn't going to kill her either.
My best guess is, she completes her trials to earn her rank as Jedi Knight and is reassigned to a mission on the outer rim, leaving her fate to us the viewer up in the air.
He didn't kill him easily, he hesitates and says " I shouldn't because it's not the Jedi way." That's not the mindset of someone looking for revenge.
but dooku having Killed Ahsoka even if Indircetly through seperatist army would be a easy way to retcon Mary sue's death into contuinity and not affect ROTS.
Seems more like you just want a reason to kill Ahsoka.
She's a mary Sue, made for the Tween and younger crowd to go watch the movie where they have to save slimer... err baby Jabba from evil or something, I never did understand why they used that particular storyline for the theatrical release, seems like the show has been better than the movie.
Maybe Ahsoka has the common sense to go into hiding rather than get herself killed. If she's one of just three surviving Jedi, impulsively picking a fight she can't win would be irresponsible. Also, there might be a reason she doesn't know what happened until she meets up with Obi-Wan or Yoda afterwards and they order her to lie low. Given how outgunned they are, she should have the sense to follow their lead.
I'm sure there's no intentional sexual subtext - even if Clone Wars weren't meant for kids (not exclusively, but it has to appeal to them and be sanitized enough that the parents won't start a boycott), it still has to follow the Star Wars tone of No Sex Please, We're Jedi.
But it's endlessly amusing to see things in the show that aren't there, particularly involving Obi-Wan. I'm always suspicious of the too-puritannical-to-be-believed types.
Y'know, throwing around the term "Mary Sue" and Mary Jane"[sic] in several posts doesn't further justify your point of view. Instead of the label, why not just detail your criticism of the character? You object to her being made for the "tween and younger crowd"? Fair enough. But if she was originally a marketing ploy (like, say Darth Maul), two curious things have happened since. First, there are stretches of episodes in which she doesn't appear. Second, when she is on screen, her character not only develops (both skills and flaws), but serves to illuminate Anakin Skywalker's character.
So critique the character all you want. I just don't think you do yourself any favors by repeatedly using a label that has very little specific meaning.
Mary Sue or not, Ahsoka is the most interesting character in the show because she's the only important character whose fate is a mystery. I didn't expect to like her, but as it turns out, I do. I'm watching chiefly to see what happens to her, and also see if the writers can foreshadow Anakin's fall in a convincing way.
So far on that front, we have a guy who loves to fight and who isn't above torturing prisoners, but that hardly makes him unique among the Jedi, so I'm still waiting to find out whatever it was that made him vulnerable to the dark side when the rest of the Jedi have not been depicted as especially vulnerable. Alternatively, maybe they are all very vulnerable to determined effort on the part of a Sith, and Anakin was just unlucky that the effort was directed at him.
So far on that front, we have a guy who loves to fight and who isn't above torturing prisoners, but that hardly makes him unique among the Jedi, so I'm still waiting to find out whatever it was that made him vulnerable to the dark side when the rest of the Jedi have not been depicted as especially vulnerable. Alternatively, maybe they are all very vulnerable to determined effort on the part of a Sith, and Anakin was just unlucky that the effort was directed at him.
Ahsoka is much more useful in that regard than the characters I thought should have that role, namely Obi-Wan and Padme. Padme in particular is getting one-note and boring, a tedious bleeding heart liberal. Maybe Anakin's "radical right wing" viewpoint is nothing more than a reaction to having to listen to little miss Nancy Pelosi at home?
Nancy Pelosi ... now there is a Mary Sue. 
I thought a Mary Sue is someone you aspire to be? 
I don't understand the problem with Ahoska where silkbones is coming from, surely you have to realize that she is there mainly because this is a kids show? They created her so that young people watching the series could have someone to look up and relate to. Secondly Ahoska works in terms of Anakin's ongoing attachment problems. The aforementioned movie was for kids primarily. Adults and young adults weren't really the demographic they were going for. They wanted to pull in new fans and younger fans. I believe Filoni talks about this on the movie audio commentary.
I thought a Mary Sue was a character that maybe the author aspires to be, but that other people find annoying.I thought a Mary Sue is someone you aspire to be?
I guess the people employed by George Lucas want to be little alien girls.
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