Star Wars Rebels Season Two (spoilers)

[Stephen!]

That scene also have us a little of Chopper's backstory: she found him on Ryloth during the Clone Wars. Was he the property of a Jedi? The Republic forces or a separatist droid? In a way I think the latter may the the most interesting possibility.

Speaking of Chopper, having recently re-watched "Always Two There Are", I wonder if that mini probe droid installed some sort of malware into him, when it temporarily deactivated him. It would possibly explain Kanan's "everywhere we go, we run into those guys" line in the recent season 2 trailer - The Inquisitors could be tracking the rebels via Chopper.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

One note of interest: whatever method they used on the population below, they didn't destroy the planet itself, so it's a fair bet the superlaser isn't even ready for a test-fire yet.

Well they would probably have to replace the kyber crystal Kanan and Hera destroyed last season first.

 

[Reverend]

^A distinct possibility,
That said, I had assumed that one was destined for the second Death Star. I mean if it took well over a decade to get the first one from the skeletal state we saw at the end of RotS to the point where it is now, just a few years out from ANH, then it seems ludicrous that they could get the second *even* bigger one built from scratch to functional operation in just the three or four year interval between ANH & RotJ. Thus I choose to presume the second one is already taking shape over Endor.

It's also possible that the Empire has other secret weapons projects in the works that requite kyber crystals...maybe at a certain covert lab on Jakku...?

 

[Tuskin38]

Only thing I can think of regarding the construction of DS1 taking so long, is they started right at the beginning of the empire. They didn't have the infrastructure and the labour. to build it in place.

Also perhaps they started building the second one while the 1st one was under construction.

 

[Ithekro]

Working all the bugs out of the Death Star (and looking at Geonosis, that might be literally), took a long time. Building a new one with that knowledge might not take anywhere near that long. Especially if they managed to built a lot of prefab parts and got their hands and enough large Kyber crystals to focus the Superlaser. Also without the Imperal Senate and an open Rebellion, the Emperor could just do what he wants.

Also the Second Death Star was not finished anyway. It way maybe two thirds built, and would probably need years to fit out once completed.

 

[Reverend]

I think this is one of those things that could be fairly argued either way, unless there's a ruling by the judges (read: the LFSG.)

Either way it's neat to see the characters find hints of what's going on with no clue how it all fits together. I mean nothing they've said indicates they've connected what happened at Geonosis to the kyber crystal they intercepted a while back. Perhaps Organa has more of a sense of the bigger picture and keeps sending them after these leads?

Actually, it just occurred to me that the way Hera & Kanan met in 'A New Dawn' also related (indirectly) to the Death Star project, so perhaps they're building to the Ghost crew being the ones that discover it's existence, leading into 'Rogue One'. Maybe not directly, as in they'll actually be shown or mentioned in live action, but I think an oblique reference in the opening crawl would be doable. Something along the broad lines of "...a small Rebel cell has uncovered the existence of the Empire's secret battle station..." It'd be a bit of a long shot though.

 

[Ithekro]

Well, season three should be going in the lead up to "Rogue One". While they said they aren't going to cross the lines, they might blur the lines a bit so they run into each other lightly without crossover. I wonder if they will do a heavy jump in time between seasons. We are roughly three years before Yavin now in Rebels. Rogue One is basically right before Yavin. Rumors that their will be a small time jump so they can age Ezra up a little sort of like they did for Ahsoka in the Clone Wars. However I'd still like to see a story about the formal formation of the Alliance to Restore the Republic. The formal treaty combining various Rebel cells together under a new shadow government to face the Empire. The Rebel Alliance that would win its first major victory just before the Battle of Yavin. But also suffer one of its largest disasters with the destruction of Alderaan.

One thing I just remembered. The temples on Yavin IV were built to the Sith. They are Sith temples. Could that be a way to evade the Empire? Go to Sith ruins that the Dark Lords of the Sith wouldn't consider as a place the Jedi and the supporters of the Republic would go?

 

[Tuskin38]

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Judging by the video title they're in the temple seen in the mid season trailer.

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I'm really thinking this Jedi Temple Guard is the light side part of the Grand Inquisitor

 

[Reverend]

Well, season three should be going in the lead up to "Rogue One". While they said they aren't going to cross the lines, they might blur the lines a bit so they run into each other lightly without crossover. I wonder if they will do a heavy jump in time between seasons. We are roughly three years before Yavin now in Rebels. Rogue One is basically right before Yavin. Rumors that their will be a small time jump so they can age Ezra up a little sort of like they did for Ahsoka in the Clone Wars. However I'd still like to see a story about the formal formation of the Alliance to Restore the Republic. The formal treaty combining various Rebel cells together under a new shadow government to face the Empire. The Rebel Alliance that would win its first major victory just before the Battle of Yavin. But also suffer one of its largest disasters with the destruction of Alderaan.

A time jump would seem inevitable, but there is something that gives me pause. After TCW was cancelled, Filloni said that the intent was for the show to actually catch up with ROTS and depict what was going on with the likes of Rex & Ahsoka during those events and maybe go a little past where the movie ends.
Obviously that nave came to pass but I wonder if they might not attempt something similar with the OT? Maybe if they time jump ahead a bit we'll get to see the events of ANH from a different perspective? Maybe even as far as Empire or if they *really* want to change things up, post-RotJ, though really that might be better as the next show after Rebels (Star Wars Republic?)

One thing I just remembered. The temples on Yavin IV were built to the Sith. They are Sith temples. Could that be a way to evade the Empire? Go to Sith ruins that the Dark Lords of the Sith wouldn't consider as a place the Jedi and the supporters of the Republic would go?

You know something similar did occur to me, though it had more to do with connecting the idea that the Ghost crew are scouting base locations and that we see they're also investigating at least on ancient Sith temple. Perhaps when they find Yavin IV they realise it'd make a perfect base? Perhaps the ambient dark side disturbance in such places can help shield them from Vader's foresight (I assume nobody knows Palpatine is a Sith still.) Indeed, there's plenty of McQuarrie concept artwork to mine. Some of which they already have as the lettering we see in the Lothal Jedi Temple and it seems this Sith Temple feature lettering from said Yavin concept art, hinting at the shared heritage of Sith and Jedi.

If nothing else it might be another excuse for dropping a KOTOR reference if in their searches they discover the base on Dantooine and it's the ruins of the old Jedi enclave from the game.

 

[Set Harth]

After TCW was cancelled, Filloni said that the intent was for the show to actually catch up with ROTS and depict what was going on with the likes of Rex & Ahsoka during those events and maybe go a little past where the movie ends.

I thought I heard that a lot before the show was canceled, but maybe it was coming from viewer assumptions. In any case, I feel like a show called "The Clone Wars" should stay in the Clone Wars.

 

[Ithekro]

That's a nifty lightsaber the temple guard has.

 

[Mr Light]

<<Perhaps the ambient dark side disturbance in such places can help shield them from Vader's foresight (I assume nobody knows Palpatine is a Sith still.)>>
That's an interesting question. Does Ahsoka know that Palpatine is a Sith? Obi-Wan and Yoda know, but Obi-Wan's warning message didn't mention it. But we've seen Ezra contacted by Yoda. Surely that's something the old frog would want to pass along

 

[CorporalClegg]

Was that a yellow lightsaber?

 

[Ithekro]

Yes. The Jedi Sentinels (Temple Guards) had yellow lightsabers. We saw them rarely. The main time was during the trail in the fifth season on the Clone Wars.

 

[Reverend]

Was that a yellow lightsaber?

Yup. As Ithekro pointed out, this isn't the first time they've shown up...or the second...or the third. The folding dual hilt isn't a new thing either.
Side note: spot the other non-blue, red, green or purple blade in that second clip.

I thought I heard that a lot before the show was canceled, but maybe it was coming from viewer assumptions. In any case, I feel like a show called "The Clone Wars" should stay in the Clone Wars.

Well, it's certainly not an assumption.
From the sounds of it, it seems like they would have only gone past the official end of the war by a few episodes, maybe an arc which sounds like an appropriate denouement for the show. After all, it's not about the war itself but about the characters with the war as a backdrop and what happens to such people when a war is over is often as compelling as what they did in the war.

I'm reminded of the last few episodes of 'Band of Brothers' which basically shows what happens when a war ends. You don't just pack up and go home, there's prisoners to manage, assets to cease, war criminals to chase down and various other loose ends to tie up. Also, contrary to expectations; people keep dying.

I can see similar scenarios with Dooku and/or Grievous's stronghold being captured (much like Eagle's Nest), liberations turning into occupations (Ryloth, Kashyykk & Mandalore leap to mind) and of course I'm sure even with the Seperatist leadership slaughtered, Sidious would have several other loose ends that he needed Vader to tie up.

 

[Samurai8472]

It's tragic when you think about it. The whole species was thoroughly used by Sideous in the lead up to and during the Clone Wars, only to ultimately be made extinct when he had no further use for them. As unsympathetic as they were, I don't think they deserved that fate.

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Standard TV and movie trope to kill off the workforce after they've completed their task

 

[JD]

A time jump would seem inevitable, but there is something that gives me pause. After TCW was cancelled, Filloni said that the intent was for the show to actually catch up with ROTS and depict what was going on with the likes of Rex & Ahsoka during those events and maybe go a little past where the movie ends.
Obviously that nave came to pass but I wonder if they might not attempt something similar with the OT? Maybe if they time jump ahead a bit we'll get to see the events of ANH from a different perspective? Maybe even as far as Empire or if they *really* want to change things up, post-RotJ, though really that might be better as the next show after Rebels (Star Wars Republic?)

Maybe the last shot of the series could be Leia getting on the Tative IV, or maybe they could jump past the end of ROTJ and show Kanan and Ezra becoming the first official members of Luke's New Jedi Order.

 

[Set Harth]

By the time of the OT Kanan and Ezra should be killed off for the sake of continuity.

 

[Reverend]

Standard TV and movie trope to kill off the workforce after they've completed their task

It's a much older trope than TV methinks. "Dead men tell no tales" and all that. Don't think I've ever see it extended to an entire species before though.
Furthermore, the way they were manipulated into basically digging their own mass grave is I think, particularly grim.

Maybe the last shot of the series could be Leia getting on the Tative IV, or maybe they could jump past the end of ROTJ and show Kanan and Ezra becoming the first official members of Luke's New Jedi Order.

I've be surprised of both of those two survive till the end. I suspect one or the other is going to bite it and probably at the other's hand.

By the time of the OT Kanan and Ezra should be killed off for the sake of continuity.

I wouldn't necessarily say both of them *must* be killed off. I can think of at least one good reason why neither of them were seen to be involved in the events of the OT. Specifically running a secret haven for force sensitive children rescued from the Inquisitorius.

Mind you if I had to choose between any one of them surviving or Ahsoka surviving, I'd pick Ahsoka in a hot second. No question.

 

[Set Harth]

They should all die. But it's not going to happen. Filoni didn't have the guts to kill Ahsoka before and he won't now. The last scene will probably just be everyone standing there making bedroom eyes at each other while the Force theme plays, but it should be a bunch of corpses!!!