That's actually how I feel about the Clone Trooper voices, at this point I associate Dee Bradley Baker as their voice a lot more than I do Temuera Morrison.
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I'll admit, Matt Lanter's Anakin has edged out Hayden Christensen's in my mind as the definitive version of that character. It's case by base though, since I still prefer Smits as Bail (maybe I'm just too much of a 'West Wing' fan? 
) and while Tom Kane does a fine job, Frank Oz is and will always be Yoda. (See also: James Earl Jones.)
The clones are a little more tricky since I still think of Morrison as Cody, but I can never quite picture him as Rex...which I know makes very little sense.
) and while Tom Kane does a fine job, Frank Oz is and will always be Yoda. (See also: James Earl Jones.)The clones are a little more tricky since I still think of Morrison as Cody, but I can never quite picture him as Rex...which I know makes very little sense.
That's an easy choice. I can barely tolerate listening to Christensen's grating voice as Anakin; Lanter is enormously better. I'm glad they didn't bother going for a Christensen soundalike, as the Tartakovsky Clone Wars microseries did.
Definitely. Kane sometimes managed to do a pretty good Oz impression, but it was still very much an impression. Oz would always be preferable there.
And of course Samuel L. Jackson is immensely preferable to Terence "T.C." Carson as Mace Windu. Carson's flat, lifeless delivery really undermined the charcter, I thought. There's a scene in one of the incomplete/animatic episodes where Mace gives a badass, intimidating speech to a bunch of droids before a battle, and I couldn't help imagining how much cooler it would've sounded from Jackson, or even from someone who could do a decent Jackson impression.
When I read the novel and comic adapted from unmade TCW episodes, I generally imagined the TCW voice cast in the roles, but I went with Jackson for Mace and Oz for Yoda, and maybe a blend of Corey Burton and Christopher Lee for Dooku (Burton's Lee impression is so good that it's hard for me to tell the difference, and I'm usually very good at such things).
I don't even remember what Morrison sounds like. The clones, even Cody, never really emerged as characters in the prequels.
I'm trying to remember what kind of expectations I had for seasons 2 and 3. I might have had the expectation of more Vader in season 2 after The Siege of Lothal. Other than that I don't know what I expected for the follow on seasons
Because for season 4 I don't know what to expect and I expect everything! I want all the answers! I want this to be the best ending for a show ever! I want to know who lives, who dies, where everyone will be after Return of the Jedi or even The Force Awakens.
OTOH, they should end the show with a title card that says "Ezra Bridger never returned home."
Because for season 4 I don't know what to expect and I expect everything! I want all the answers! I want this to be the best ending for a show ever! I want to know who lives, who dies, where everyone will be after Return of the Jedi or even The Force Awakens.
OTOH, they should end the show with a title card that says "Ezra Bridger never returned home."
Grating voices are super annoying. Unrelated, but I'm guessing you don't get many telephone calls?
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I always thought it was funny how closely the 2D Clone Wars Anakin was based on Hayden, as were all the other characters based on their movie counterparts. Then they made the jump to the 3D Clone Wars and all the character models and voice actors made the jump. Except Anakin. Different model, different actor, and a take on the character as far away from Hayden as they could manage. Poor guy.
Only a few actors did the same roles in both Clone Wars series -- James Arnold Taylor as Obi-Wan, Tom Kane as Yoda, Corey Burton as Dooku, Terence Carson as Mace, and of course Anthony Daniels as C-3PO. Everyone else had a different actor and sometimes an entirely different voice treatment -- for instance, Andre Sogliuzzo's Clone Troopers in the microseries had American accents, and John DiMaggio's General Grievous had no cough and a much more polished delivery than Matthew Wood's. Grey DeLisle gave Ventress a much reedier, more hissing voice than Nika Futterman did, and I think Cree Summer's Luminara had a French accent rather than the English accent Olivia d'Abo used.
Granted, the reason for the coughing was a plot point at the very end of the microseries - Windu force-crushed Grievous' chest, just before they lead into RotS. The later series seems to have ignored this.
That was implied. CW's Grievous had no cough and a polished delivery because in that continuity, the thing that gave him the cough and the strained voice hadn't happened yet. It was a different approach to the voice characterization on every level. (And just one of multiple ways in which the two shows differ.)
I never disputed that part of your post; I merely clarified that Anakin was far from the only role that was recast between the two series. I'm addressing that merely as a matter of fact. I'm not qualified to speak to the intentions of the producers, since I haven't read any interviews in which they addressed that point. They may or may not have wanted to distance themselves from Christensen; I don't know, although I'm certainly glad they went with Matt Lanter instead of a Christensen soundalike. All I know is that only five CW actors reprised their roles in TCW, and that was the only point I intended to make.
From what I gather, the real reason for this was because when the micro-series was in development, Grievous's character in RotS was still in flux. They'd about nailed down the design, but that's about it. By the time they got around to the final episodes, the movie was much further along and Lucas had since decided that he should be more of a Flash Gordon style moustache twirler than the horror style villain/monster he was on the show.
I think the idea behind the cough was make sure people understood he was a cyborg, not a droid, with the justification being that the cybernetics weren't working with his organics so well. The throat crush from Windu was just the show's way of realigning itself with canon.
I remember reading an interview, or an article shortly after ROTS came out that said it was this.
Recall George liking what they did in the show?
George probably did like it, but when the time came, he wanted to tell more stories via cartoons, he did it his way. They did try to keep to some of the older cartoon in places, as even some of the production staff liked to think that the first part of the Clone War was told in the 2003 series with them picking up were its first series left off after Anakin become a Jedi Knight. The remaining parts of the story, they figured would be after the end of their own 2008 series. But time went on and George had ideas....and you know how that goes.
As it is, the first 20 or 21 episodes of Clone Wars (2003) can more or less fit in with The Clone Wars (2008) on some level. I tend to think if the 2003 series as the propaganda version of events (very stylized and somewhat over the top), while the 2008 series is more what actually happened. Though who's propaganda is unclear (I would assume it to be the Rebel Alliance or New Republic version of events).
As it is, the first 20 or 21 episodes of Clone Wars (2003) can more or less fit in with The Clone Wars (2008) on some level. I tend to think if the 2003 series as the propaganda version of events (very stylized and somewhat over the top), while the 2008 series is more what actually happened. Though who's propaganda is unclear (I would assume it to be the Rebel Alliance or New Republic version of events).
Well he liked it enough to borrow the character design style as the basis for his show, though as it went on they moved further away from the sharp edges and straight lines into something a little more subtle.
Don't knock it. George having ideas is how we have a Star Wars franchise in the first place.
I tend to agree, that most of the events of the show save the final arc *happened* in some form or another, even if the timing and details are off.
Anakin's knighting, his first encounter with Ventress, his exchanging droids with Padme as post wedding gifts, Windu dealing with a Separatist operation on Dantooine, maybe even the attack on Iilum.
It's easier to think of it more as literal "Legends of the Clone Wars". Less first hand accounts and documentary footage and more tall tales told in far flung watering holes and trade outposts. The kind of thing Rey may have grown up hearing about for example.
That would explain the Seismic Tank the Separatist were using on Dantooine. Literally a Star Destroyer sized piston slamming into the planet. Also the giant artillery piece in early on that the ARC Troopers covered with bombs....like every square foot was a bomb. The lancer trooper and IG lancer troopers are out there, but within reason for the setting (lightsaber, Knights, queens...why not lancers?)
The Mon Cala arc was basically told twice. Once in a simple five minute form with just Master Kit Fisto and the other longer multi episode form which had the actual politics involved, and also involved Anakin Skywalker, Padme, and even Jar Jar with his Army.
Grievous introduction is only slightly over the top. He is that dangerous, since he does have a collection of lightsabers from those he's cut down. He's just not the unstoppable killing machine, that would be propaganda for sure.
The Mon Cala arc was basically told twice. Once in a simple five minute form with just Master Kit Fisto and the other longer multi episode form which had the actual politics involved, and also involved Anakin Skywalker, Padme, and even Jar Jar with his Army.
Grievous introduction is only slightly over the top. He is that dangerous, since he does have a collection of lightsabers from those he's cut down. He's just not the unstoppable killing machine, that would be propaganda for sure.
I think Ventress's introduction (Ch. 6 & 7) and the adventure on Ilum involving Luminara and Barriss Offee (Ch. 14-16) are two of the biggest highlights.
Yeah, the advantage of viewing all Legends materials as exactly that is that it's easy to account for inaccuracies, exaggerations and contradictions. Even some of the more "out there" stuff like Tag & Bink, Skippy the Jedi Droid and the Jedi Prince series could be actual tales people tell. Doesn't matter if most of it 100% fabricated or nonsensical.
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